"I'm pretty sure that men feeling like they can't share their feelings (etc) isn't anyone's "goal"."
In my universe, that's exactly the goal of the societal norm of suppression that's pushed from toxic masculinity, to cultivate an archetype that is impregnable to "feelings" that are something for only women and children to concern themselves with. Mothers and fathers and society alike instill it in their sons, ostensibly to "strengthen" them - not because they hate males. While it surely has negative impacts to men and everyone around them, it's inherently not compatible with the definition of misandry.
We can accept TM as a form of oppression for men (which I do), and that might tempt one to call it misandry, but misandry isn't better language except possibly to fragile personalities that are mistakenly assuming personal culpability purely because of their gender and thus feel persecuted by it. Terms like TM and patriarchy don't describe misandry and they don't exist to do misandry (although I'm sure they are regularly misused for that purpose by many). They define real phenomena that aren't accurately captured by "misandry".
You can have the last word on it - may we both arrive at the truth in the end!
>"If the goal of toxic masculinity as a concept is male supremacy,"
I'm pretty sure that men feeling like they can't share their feelings (etc) isn't anyone's "goal".
No one is trying to make their gender "supreme" by conforming to societal norms and expectations.
>"I appreciate the exchange,"
thanks, me too.
"I'm pretty sure that men feeling like they can't share their feelings (etc) isn't anyone's "goal"."
In my universe, that's exactly the goal of the societal norm of suppression that's pushed from toxic masculinity, to cultivate an archetype that is impregnable to "feelings" that are something for only women and children to concern themselves with. Mothers and fathers and society alike instill it in their sons, ostensibly to "strengthen" them - not because they hate males. While it surely has negative impacts to men and everyone around them, it's inherently not compatible with the definition of misandry.
We can accept TM as a form of oppression for men (which I do), and that might tempt one to call it misandry, but misandry isn't better language except possibly to fragile personalities that are mistakenly assuming personal culpability purely because of their gender and thus feel persecuted by it. Terms like TM and patriarchy don't describe misandry and they don't exist to do misandry (although I'm sure they are regularly misused for that purpose by many). They define real phenomena that aren't accurately captured by "misandry".
You can have the last word on it - may we both arrive at the truth in the end!