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Martin Krisko's avatar

Dude, I’m a sociopath—I know it, it is what it is. I’m trying to understand the world around me, why people act the way they do. I only have my own perception of the world, and from that perspective, when I observe certain behaviors, they seem completely irrational to me.

I don’t care much about Israelis in this context either. Honestly, the ultra-Orthodox Jews are on the exact same level of bullshit as fundamentalist Islamists or evangelical Christians in the USA—same shit, different name. What Israel is doing is absolutely disgusting, but at least it’s rational.

What I can’t wrap my head around is how Palestinians behave. To me, it seems irrational, and the main reason for that is this concept of martyrdom and the profound religiosity of their society. That’s the sticking point for me.

If someone could decode this concept of martyrdom in a way that makes it rational, I might be able to understand it better. And that’s what this is all about—trying to make sense of it.

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Greg Hausmann's avatar

Can't admit to rationalizing Zionism any better than that. I rest my case.

;(

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Martin Krisko's avatar

Why are you bringing up Zionism? I don’t care if there ends up being a Greater Israel or not. I believe Israel should never have been created in that location in the first place. It was essentially a way for the Allies to whitewash their incompetence in handling the Jewish situation after WWII. Israel should have existed, but as part of some Western country, not forcibly dumped into the middle of the Middle East.

But that’s irrelevant now. My opinions can’t change the past—nothing can. All I can do is try to understand the situation as it is today.

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Greg Hausmann's avatar

"What Israel is doing is absolutely disgusting, but at least it’s rational."

;(

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Martin Krisko's avatar

I’ve watched a few documentaries and read analyses on what’s happened since 1948, so I have at least a basic understanding of why things unfolded the way they did. I’m no expert, but taking all of this into consideration, I believe Israel had to respond hard to Gaza and punish the attackers.

I’ve seen the less filtered parts of the internet, and some of what I came across was so horrific it made me ashamed to share the same species as the perpetrators. So, Israel’s response—wanting to ensure something like this never happens again—feels logical to me. If I lived in a country that allowed such an attack to go unanswered, I wouldn’t want to stay there.

That said, how they’re going about it is disgusting. It’s less of a war and more of a punitive action. The primary goal isn’t just military victory; it’s to punish and instill fear to reduce the chances of a future incursion. It’s brutal and repulsive, but at the end of the day, it serves a rational purpose.

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Greg Hausmann's avatar

Seriously, I need no further convincing you're sitting at an 8200 terminal.

;(

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Martin Krisko's avatar

Dude, I tried to search for it and it found some Retail Handheld Scanners?

Wtf are you talking about?

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huey's avatar

You are obviously an Israeli struggling

with your countries GENOCIDE.

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Martin Krisko's avatar

Dude, I’m Czech with zero connection to Israel. I’ve been an atheist my entire life, with no inclination toward religion whatsoever.

I’m ginger, so I avoid places with lots of sunlight, which means I’ve never been to Israel or anywhere close to it. The closest I’ve come is visiting a synagogue once on a school trip—if that even counts.

I have no personal ties to Israel. The only bias I might have is a slight one toward people of Jewish descent, purely because of the number of Nobel Prize laureates they’ve produced in STEM fields (the only ones that matter, in my opinion). I don’t care about literature or the peace prize.

That’s it. That’s the extent of any bias I have.

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