Israel is targeting Palestinians’ slim means of accessing food, bombing two makeshift kitchens and UNRWA’s distribution center in Jabalia in the past few days
The collective West; the US, Britain, France, Germany, and the rest of the European Union, will NEVER be able to sluff off the moral failure and shame it has rightly garnered for itself by its corrupt and inhumane behavior since October 7th. Where the Nuremberg trials once took a stand and made a statement, now all we get is a shrug. How pathetic we are as a species.
For a frame of reference, I grew up Jewish. Saturday school, Hebrew school, Bar Mitzvah, etc. But I gave it up for two reasons. One is that there is no such thing as "god," so I don't qualify to identify myself with any religion. The other is that it became clear early that Jews are fixated on the Holocaust. It seemed that between that any a number of their holidays, Judaism was about feeling like a victim, of everyone, for millennia. Which I don't.
I had no categorical problem with Zionism after WWII. I didn't disagree that it seemed that unless Jews were alienating everyone, which they might have been, they did need a safe home. A number of places were considered -- mostly Palestine and parts of Africa -- and under heavy lobbying, the "Israel" part of Palestine was chosen. Palestinians were mostly nomads then, and this solution could have been workable, with Palestinians getting the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, except the Israeli Jews were still being attacked by other Arabs, who were more offended by the "West" than they were by Jews, and the Israeli Jews decided they wanted the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, too, so every Israeli government since 1948 has tolerated illegal Israeli settlements, mostly in the West Bank, and attacks and other hardships on innocent Palestinians.
The Israelis today complain about Hamas, but they don't stop to think why Hamas exists, and Hezbollah, and the PLO. Carter helped negotiate peace with Egypt, and Clinton tried to help negotiate peace with the PLO. But the Israelis never stopped creating misery for the Palestinians.
So I "forgive" Zionism, in its original theory. One million Palestinians were displaced to create Israel for the Jews, and that could have been workable, if the Israeli Jews had allowed it to be, which they didn't. They think their complaint started on 10/7/23, but they were feeding the problem before that.
"Free Palestine?" Absolutely. "Fuck Israel?" Keep in mind that most Israelis do not approve of what Netanyahu is doing, but he, and his predecessors appear to be unstoppable. "Fuck the Israeli governments?" No question.
Israelis and Palestinians can get along well, if Israel chooses it to be so. There were plenty of Palestinians who had jobs, and good jobs, in Israel. This is not a structural and categorical problem. Clearly, Donnie, then Biden, and now Donnie again, make it much worse.
Jews do not self-reflect. They were thrown out of the middle east on a number of occasions. They were thrown out or converted by the Spanish. Shakespeare made fun of them in "The Merchant of Venice." Tom Lehrer, who was himself Jewish, sang a hatred song containing the line "everybody hates the Jews." Jews have made a career out of being hated, and working to earn it. So the question you might ask is if antiSemitism is not as inappropriate as people reflexly think it is. Jews go around telling the world they're the "chosen people," by which they seem to mean better than anyone else. It's no way to make friends.
Good for you for not continuing to support some aspects of Zionism. But, some ideologies are so toxic, none can remain standing when based on false premises.
"Palestinians were mostly nomads then" The only source for claims such as these were from Zionists, and can't be supported by the unbiased historical record.
The actual history, which has been written by many reputable scholars, Pappe, Morris, Finkelstein, and more, show the existence of settled communities going back millennia. Please do not buy into any part of the lies that have gone into perpetuating this massive, genocidal fraud.
Joy, my apologies. As you summarize, there is certainly more of the story to tell. I would venture confidently to agree with you that for millennia, there is no place in the world where there were not congregations of people living together ("settled communities," as you restate it). And I have no doubt that the "middle east" contained them, and impressive cities, too. Part of the issue might be the definition of "Palestinians." Or "Palestine." I don't know what Judea and Samaria were before they were Judea and Samaria, but at some point, they became "Palestine." If you want to scold me for not looking this up before I shoot my mouth off, I'll plead guilty.
At any rate, the entire middle east was recertified after WWI. Countries were renamed, and boundaries redrawn. As best I understand it, that's what the Arabs have against the "west." And Arabs/"Palestinians" never had a problem with Jews until the west not only destroyed the system that was the middle east, but gave part of what was then "Palestine" to the Jews, and called it Israel. There are many people who say Jews/Israelis and Palestinians never had a problem getting along well until the past 70 years.
So once again, "everybody hates the Jews." It's not possible, if you're being honest and responsible, not to wonder about that.
Jackie Mason was a comedian who had originally intended to be a rabbi. And a number of his jokes made fun of how demanding and impossible the Jews are.
I don't not support Zionism. I don't support antiPalestinianism. And the Israelis have taken that tack as a theme. So I'm opposed to them for mistreating Palestinians, or anyone else. I'm not opposed to them for wanting peace, if they do, which they might not. Which is why I said maybe the larger consideration is if there's something wrong with Jews, and if antiSemitism is not as uncalled for as many people say it is. For what it's worth, it should also be noted that the OT "god" was vicious, destructive, and punitive. The NT "god" is very different.
I appreciate your working through this. I think we best not leave out another group of religious folks, who began promoting Zionism back in the 16th century in England. I don't know how far back this group wants to go, but I'm all for studying Christian Zionism.
A new institute is being launched for the study of Christian Zionism
This is an important topic, given the numbers and strength of the support Israel receives from these people and organizations .See what they are doing, and support them if you think this is a valuable thing to be doing at this time.
As a side issue, it's also fair to note that Jerusalem was an international/universal city, that was the birthplace and special home for Jews, Christians, and Muslims. Until Donnie destroyed the system by moving the US Embassy there from Tel Aviv, after which the Israelis declared it their new capitol city.
Joy, if you want to spank me for not having researched all of this first, and for not having looked at the link you sent, I'll pull down my trowsers, and you can go ahead.
I will tell you that my understanding of why Christians support Zionism is that they believe that once all the Jews are back in whatever we want to call it, then the Messiah will come back, it will be the "End of Days," and whoever is supposed to go to heaven will go. So Christians want the Jews back in... Not for the benefit of the Jews, but for the benefit of the Christians.
I have an Israeli-American friend who insists that Israel is not committing genocide against the Palestinians. I've asked him if "genocide" is the wrong word, what the right word is.
I think the word you're looking for is punitive action. The idea is that, from their perspective, this is retribution for October 7th — basically a "fuck around and find out" kind of logic. The goal, in their eyes, is to ensure no future attacks by responding with overwhelming force.
Thing is, both genocide and punitive action can look very similar in execution — mass casualties, destruction, displacement — but the key difference lies in the intent and endgame. Genocide aims to eliminate a group because of who they are; punitive action aims to punish them for what they did (or are accused of doing).
That said, the label doesn’t change the reality: both can involve war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Understood, and my friend would largely agree with you. So here's the problem.
Israel is "punishing" people who didn't do anything. And they've been doing it for decades. Both my Israeli-American friend and another friend whose parents were caught up in the Holocaust both openly say there's no such thing as a good Palestinian. Both of them say that Palestinians are reared on hatred of Jews, so there's no difference between a Hamas fighter and a newborn Palestinian baby.
Also, to the extent that Israel would argue that it's punishing anyone for 10/7/23, their mistreatment of entirely innocent Palestinians began long before that. Hamas, and Hezbollah, and the PLO, exist for a reason. And it's not in order to express to Israel how grateful they are for the good treatment they've always gotten.
The endgame is genocide. My Israeli-American friend doesn't like the "g word." He sent me a video of some professor who's an expert in genocide, and who explained that genocide isn't just killing an entire population of people. It's destroying their way of life. Israelis claim to be being strategic to spare the lives of civilians. But that's most of their victims. They specifically destroy hospitals, which they claim have Hamas tunnels beneath them. They prevent civilian Palestinians from getting food. Israel agreed to a ceasefire at the end of November, '23. They got back half the hostages, then ended the ceasefire. If they cared about their own people -- Israelis held hostage by Hamas -- they would have extended the ceasefire. This is all about genocide.
Gotcha — and yeah, I get where you're coming from. Your friend might reject the word genocide, but his logic walks right into it.
Still, I don’t really argue for either side — I’m just observing. But for the sake of discussion:
You said Israel’s “punishing” people who didn’t do anything. That’s true — but that’s always the case in war. 99% of those killed aren’t guilty of anything. Even most soldiers are just poor kids caught up in it. War isn’t moral — it’s transactional. Realpolitik doesn’t care who’s innocent.
As for whether this is genocide or just punishment? Honestly, I don't know. If Hamas had proper bases — real military sites away from civilians — and Israel still targeted random neighborhoods, then sure, call it what it is. But when they fought actual armies in the past (like Egypt or Syria), they didn’t operate like this. Then again, that was 60+ years ago.
On the decades-long mess — yeah, Israel’s been holding Gaza and the West Bank in a chokehold. But I think the UN did Palestinians dirty too. They gave them a special refugee status that passes down generations — along with a "right to return." That locked them in place. No other group in history got that. It gave just enough hope to make sure they'd never move on. So now you’ve got a situation where Palestinians are locked into endless struggle, clinging to legal promises, while Israel knows it can’t win or lose — so it just manages the conflict. That’s where “mowing the lawn” and calorie-counting come from.
About how people see each other — yeah, it’s ugly. But honestly? I get it. You live under threat, you build stories to justify it. My country was occupied by Russians for 40 years — my view of them is different from someone who’s never lived under that kind of pressure. Same goes for both sides in this mess. Palestinians demonize Jews too. No one’s hands are clean in the perception war.
Remember that famous photo — the Palestinian guy grinning, holding up his blood-covered hands after they literally tore apart two Israeli soldiers with their bare hands? You don’t have that kind of joy in your eyes unless you truly believe ripping someone limb from limb was the greatest feat of your life. Man, I still can’t comprehend how a bunch of retards can hold that up as a symbol of resistance in protests… but whatever, let’s move on.
Destroying infrastructure, hospitals, schools? That lines up with punitive action. “You fuck with us, we make sure you suffer.” Cut food, wipe out hospitals, block aid — not because it's smart or surgical, but because the point is to break you enough that you never try again. It’s brutal, but if your top priorities are:
1. This must never happen again
2. Hostages are a secondary concern
Then yeah, that logic leads exactly here. If those were my only options, I might make the same call. Still not sure why they haven’t just flooded the tunnels, though — weird oversight.
And yeah, legally? This probably is genocide. Francesca Albanese and others have made solid arguments for it. But I’m not reacting to legal definitions — I just don’t have a strong reaction to the label. Genocide and ethnic cleansing are tools humans use all the time. Look around the world — there are dozens, maybe hundreds of examples. It’s ugly, but it’s not rare. What hits me harder is raw mass slaughter — Rwanda, Holocaust-level — and we’re not there.
Please note: I have no horse in this race. I don’t care that much — as long as they keep this shit in their patch of desert.
I understand everything you say, and I agree with many parts of it. But Israel has from its inception been sophisticated, smart, careful, and surgical. All of these civilian deaths are not unfortunate mistakes. This is genocide. You can dress it up as "this must never happen again," but it's fundamentally genocide.
What I see as a major hypocrisy is that Semites are all the people indigenous to the area; which is mainly the Palestinians. From what I have seen, is that Israel is mostly eastern European. Thus the most antisemitic people in the world are Prozionists.
"After a year of tireless investigation, we have identified the military unit responsible, as well as the commander who led the operation that killed Hind, her family, and the two medics who tried to save her."
The Hind Rajab Foundation has filed a war crimes complaint with the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague, on M<ay 3, Hind Rajab's 7th birthday.
To know more about The Hind Rajab Foundation, there are a couple of really good interviews that Glenn Greenwald did on his Rumble platform, and Ali Abunimah of the Electronic Intifada, did with the head of this organisation, Dyad Abou Jahjah. It was very informative.
Here's a petition calling for accountability for the arrest of Ali Abunimah in Switzerland for the crime of speaking about Palestinian rights:
The UN needs to grow a pair! Where are they? They either urgently reform their systems or wither and die. They have been collectively useless, though many individuals have been doing good things, like Francesca Albanese who has been interviewed tens of times on all different forums. There are a fair few other people and there are now 295 dead UNWRA staff, an unthinkable number and have been subjected to a deliberate attempt, to destroy the agency.
I'm sure this has been mooted already but the structures are designed for the colonial powers to get their way and for most of the world to have very little chance of anything. They need to beef up the UN assembly and give it more power and completely change the security council and get rid of permanent members on it and vetos of it. It is designed to let genocide happen and make it unstoppable. Gutteres has to step up. He is a lovely man but is not good in this particular role. We need someone with balls.
While Trump meets Syrian's in Saudi Arabia, to broker a deal to repair Syria, with those he condems as "'terrorists" Isreal continues a genocide in Gaza, which he paid for..
To starve people, to deprive them of water, the most basic needs, to condone this horriric genocide while shopping in Saudi Arabia, with Syria can only be seen as what it is.
A country and a man driven by greed at the costs of two million Gaza residents. Which side is Trump on? Helping Isreal create a genocide killing Arabs, or meeting in Saudi with Syrians? I wonder what Isreal will feel if Trump rebuilds countries that are sworn enemies of Isreal?
The genocide in Gaza must be stopped. Do not underestimate what lengths he will go in the name of greed, not decency. At the very worst? The birthplace of civilization will be the end of it.
Expose the money here.Such dispicable behavior onthe partof Israel is unsupportable. The US must persuade theIsraelies that peace istheir ONLY alternative.
Call on the newly elected, American Pope Leo XIV to do what it takes to stop the destruction of Gaza, and the Palestinian people. Is there anything more important in today's world than this?
RIP, Pope Francis. I feel sure he will go to Gaza in spirit. Everyday, while he was alive he spoke by phone with the Holy Family church in Gaza. Let's keep the pressure on.
We, call on the newly elected, American Pope Leo XIV to do whatever it takes to save Gaza and stop the bombing, and end the starvation:
The collective West; the US, Britain, France, Germany, and the rest of the European Union, will NEVER be able to sluff off the moral failure and shame it has rightly garnered for itself by its corrupt and inhumane behavior since October 7th. Where the Nuremberg trials once took a stand and made a statement, now all we get is a shrug. How pathetic we are as a species.
The US/Zionist gang makes MS 13 and Tren del Aragua look like boy scouts.
OH god I cannot stop my depression. Horrendous that Israel can still exist.Anyone thinking there is no genocide is completely in denial.
We see this, all of us. Zionism will never be forgiven, it is an evil and destructive ideology.
I am so sorry and sad for the people of Palestine, but hope to see their triumph over Zionism.
Free Palestine, Fuck Israel.
For a frame of reference, I grew up Jewish. Saturday school, Hebrew school, Bar Mitzvah, etc. But I gave it up for two reasons. One is that there is no such thing as "god," so I don't qualify to identify myself with any religion. The other is that it became clear early that Jews are fixated on the Holocaust. It seemed that between that any a number of their holidays, Judaism was about feeling like a victim, of everyone, for millennia. Which I don't.
I had no categorical problem with Zionism after WWII. I didn't disagree that it seemed that unless Jews were alienating everyone, which they might have been, they did need a safe home. A number of places were considered -- mostly Palestine and parts of Africa -- and under heavy lobbying, the "Israel" part of Palestine was chosen. Palestinians were mostly nomads then, and this solution could have been workable, with Palestinians getting the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, except the Israeli Jews were still being attacked by other Arabs, who were more offended by the "West" than they were by Jews, and the Israeli Jews decided they wanted the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, too, so every Israeli government since 1948 has tolerated illegal Israeli settlements, mostly in the West Bank, and attacks and other hardships on innocent Palestinians.
The Israelis today complain about Hamas, but they don't stop to think why Hamas exists, and Hezbollah, and the PLO. Carter helped negotiate peace with Egypt, and Clinton tried to help negotiate peace with the PLO. But the Israelis never stopped creating misery for the Palestinians.
So I "forgive" Zionism, in its original theory. One million Palestinians were displaced to create Israel for the Jews, and that could have been workable, if the Israeli Jews had allowed it to be, which they didn't. They think their complaint started on 10/7/23, but they were feeding the problem before that.
"Free Palestine?" Absolutely. "Fuck Israel?" Keep in mind that most Israelis do not approve of what Netanyahu is doing, but he, and his predecessors appear to be unstoppable. "Fuck the Israeli governments?" No question.
Israelis and Palestinians can get along well, if Israel chooses it to be so. There were plenty of Palestinians who had jobs, and good jobs, in Israel. This is not a structural and categorical problem. Clearly, Donnie, then Biden, and now Donnie again, make it much worse.
Jews do not self-reflect. They were thrown out of the middle east on a number of occasions. They were thrown out or converted by the Spanish. Shakespeare made fun of them in "The Merchant of Venice." Tom Lehrer, who was himself Jewish, sang a hatred song containing the line "everybody hates the Jews." Jews have made a career out of being hated, and working to earn it. So the question you might ask is if antiSemitism is not as inappropriate as people reflexly think it is. Jews go around telling the world they're the "chosen people," by which they seem to mean better than anyone else. It's no way to make friends.
Good for you for not continuing to support some aspects of Zionism. But, some ideologies are so toxic, none can remain standing when based on false premises.
"Palestinians were mostly nomads then" The only source for claims such as these were from Zionists, and can't be supported by the unbiased historical record.
The actual history, which has been written by many reputable scholars, Pappe, Morris, Finkelstein, and more, show the existence of settled communities going back millennia. Please do not buy into any part of the lies that have gone into perpetuating this massive, genocidal fraud.
Joy, my apologies. As you summarize, there is certainly more of the story to tell. I would venture confidently to agree with you that for millennia, there is no place in the world where there were not congregations of people living together ("settled communities," as you restate it). And I have no doubt that the "middle east" contained them, and impressive cities, too. Part of the issue might be the definition of "Palestinians." Or "Palestine." I don't know what Judea and Samaria were before they were Judea and Samaria, but at some point, they became "Palestine." If you want to scold me for not looking this up before I shoot my mouth off, I'll plead guilty.
At any rate, the entire middle east was recertified after WWI. Countries were renamed, and boundaries redrawn. As best I understand it, that's what the Arabs have against the "west." And Arabs/"Palestinians" never had a problem with Jews until the west not only destroyed the system that was the middle east, but gave part of what was then "Palestine" to the Jews, and called it Israel. There are many people who say Jews/Israelis and Palestinians never had a problem getting along well until the past 70 years.
So once again, "everybody hates the Jews." It's not possible, if you're being honest and responsible, not to wonder about that.
Jackie Mason was a comedian who had originally intended to be a rabbi. And a number of his jokes made fun of how demanding and impossible the Jews are.
I don't not support Zionism. I don't support antiPalestinianism. And the Israelis have taken that tack as a theme. So I'm opposed to them for mistreating Palestinians, or anyone else. I'm not opposed to them for wanting peace, if they do, which they might not. Which is why I said maybe the larger consideration is if there's something wrong with Jews, and if antiSemitism is not as uncalled for as many people say it is. For what it's worth, it should also be noted that the OT "god" was vicious, destructive, and punitive. The NT "god" is very different.
I appreciate your working through this. I think we best not leave out another group of religious folks, who began promoting Zionism back in the 16th century in England. I don't know how far back this group wants to go, but I'm all for studying Christian Zionism.
A new institute is being launched for the study of Christian Zionism
This is an important topic, given the numbers and strength of the support Israel receives from these people and organizations .See what they are doing, and support them if you think this is a valuable thing to be doing at this time.
https://studychristianzionism.org
As a side issue, it's also fair to note that Jerusalem was an international/universal city, that was the birthplace and special home for Jews, Christians, and Muslims. Until Donnie destroyed the system by moving the US Embassy there from Tel Aviv, after which the Israelis declared it their new capitol city.
Joy, if you want to spank me for not having researched all of this first, and for not having looked at the link you sent, I'll pull down my trowsers, and you can go ahead.
I will tell you that my understanding of why Christians support Zionism is that they believe that once all the Jews are back in whatever we want to call it, then the Messiah will come back, it will be the "End of Days," and whoever is supposed to go to heaven will go. So Christians want the Jews back in... Not for the benefit of the Jews, but for the benefit of the Christians.
I have an Israeli-American friend who insists that Israel is not committing genocide against the Palestinians. I've asked him if "genocide" is the wrong word, what the right word is.
I think the word you're looking for is punitive action. The idea is that, from their perspective, this is retribution for October 7th — basically a "fuck around and find out" kind of logic. The goal, in their eyes, is to ensure no future attacks by responding with overwhelming force.
Thing is, both genocide and punitive action can look very similar in execution — mass casualties, destruction, displacement — but the key difference lies in the intent and endgame. Genocide aims to eliminate a group because of who they are; punitive action aims to punish them for what they did (or are accused of doing).
That said, the label doesn’t change the reality: both can involve war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Understood, and my friend would largely agree with you. So here's the problem.
Israel is "punishing" people who didn't do anything. And they've been doing it for decades. Both my Israeli-American friend and another friend whose parents were caught up in the Holocaust both openly say there's no such thing as a good Palestinian. Both of them say that Palestinians are reared on hatred of Jews, so there's no difference between a Hamas fighter and a newborn Palestinian baby.
Also, to the extent that Israel would argue that it's punishing anyone for 10/7/23, their mistreatment of entirely innocent Palestinians began long before that. Hamas, and Hezbollah, and the PLO, exist for a reason. And it's not in order to express to Israel how grateful they are for the good treatment they've always gotten.
The endgame is genocide. My Israeli-American friend doesn't like the "g word." He sent me a video of some professor who's an expert in genocide, and who explained that genocide isn't just killing an entire population of people. It's destroying their way of life. Israelis claim to be being strategic to spare the lives of civilians. But that's most of their victims. They specifically destroy hospitals, which they claim have Hamas tunnels beneath them. They prevent civilian Palestinians from getting food. Israel agreed to a ceasefire at the end of November, '23. They got back half the hostages, then ended the ceasefire. If they cared about their own people -- Israelis held hostage by Hamas -- they would have extended the ceasefire. This is all about genocide.
Gotcha — and yeah, I get where you're coming from. Your friend might reject the word genocide, but his logic walks right into it.
Still, I don’t really argue for either side — I’m just observing. But for the sake of discussion:
You said Israel’s “punishing” people who didn’t do anything. That’s true — but that’s always the case in war. 99% of those killed aren’t guilty of anything. Even most soldiers are just poor kids caught up in it. War isn’t moral — it’s transactional. Realpolitik doesn’t care who’s innocent.
As for whether this is genocide or just punishment? Honestly, I don't know. If Hamas had proper bases — real military sites away from civilians — and Israel still targeted random neighborhoods, then sure, call it what it is. But when they fought actual armies in the past (like Egypt or Syria), they didn’t operate like this. Then again, that was 60+ years ago.
On the decades-long mess — yeah, Israel’s been holding Gaza and the West Bank in a chokehold. But I think the UN did Palestinians dirty too. They gave them a special refugee status that passes down generations — along with a "right to return." That locked them in place. No other group in history got that. It gave just enough hope to make sure they'd never move on. So now you’ve got a situation where Palestinians are locked into endless struggle, clinging to legal promises, while Israel knows it can’t win or lose — so it just manages the conflict. That’s where “mowing the lawn” and calorie-counting come from.
About how people see each other — yeah, it’s ugly. But honestly? I get it. You live under threat, you build stories to justify it. My country was occupied by Russians for 40 years — my view of them is different from someone who’s never lived under that kind of pressure. Same goes for both sides in this mess. Palestinians demonize Jews too. No one’s hands are clean in the perception war.
Remember that famous photo — the Palestinian guy grinning, holding up his blood-covered hands after they literally tore apart two Israeli soldiers with their bare hands? You don’t have that kind of joy in your eyes unless you truly believe ripping someone limb from limb was the greatest feat of your life. Man, I still can’t comprehend how a bunch of retards can hold that up as a symbol of resistance in protests… but whatever, let’s move on.
Destroying infrastructure, hospitals, schools? That lines up with punitive action. “You fuck with us, we make sure you suffer.” Cut food, wipe out hospitals, block aid — not because it's smart or surgical, but because the point is to break you enough that you never try again. It’s brutal, but if your top priorities are:
1. This must never happen again
2. Hostages are a secondary concern
Then yeah, that logic leads exactly here. If those were my only options, I might make the same call. Still not sure why they haven’t just flooded the tunnels, though — weird oversight.
And yeah, legally? This probably is genocide. Francesca Albanese and others have made solid arguments for it. But I’m not reacting to legal definitions — I just don’t have a strong reaction to the label. Genocide and ethnic cleansing are tools humans use all the time. Look around the world — there are dozens, maybe hundreds of examples. It’s ugly, but it’s not rare. What hits me harder is raw mass slaughter — Rwanda, Holocaust-level — and we’re not there.
Please note: I have no horse in this race. I don’t care that much — as long as they keep this shit in their patch of desert.
I understand everything you say, and I agree with many parts of it. But Israel has from its inception been sophisticated, smart, careful, and surgical. All of these civilian deaths are not unfortunate mistakes. This is genocide. You can dress it up as "this must never happen again," but it's fundamentally genocide.
Yes, it fulfills all legal necessities for genocide at least as far as I know.
I hope thier will be a war crime trial setup when this horror show is over to pay back Israeli & the West's criminals.
Not a fucking chance. You can't get justice from a corrupt system, and the whole damn system is totally corrupt. TOTALLY!
What I see as a major hypocrisy is that Semites are all the people indigenous to the area; which is mainly the Palestinians. From what I have seen, is that Israel is mostly eastern European. Thus the most antisemitic people in the world are Prozionists.
"After a year of tireless investigation, we have identified the military unit responsible, as well as the commander who led the operation that killed Hind, her family, and the two medics who tried to save her."
The Hind Rajab Foundation has filed a war crimes complaint with the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague, on M<ay 3, Hind Rajab's 7th birthday.
Please join me in making a contribution.
https://buy.stripe.com/cN228hbY5g7jaM84gg
To know more about The Hind Rajab Foundation, there are a couple of really good interviews that Glenn Greenwald did on his Rumble platform, and Ali Abunimah of the Electronic Intifada, did with the head of this organisation, Dyad Abou Jahjah. It was very informative.
Here's a petition calling for accountability for the arrest of Ali Abunimah in Switzerland for the crime of speaking about Palestinian rights:
https://chng.it/8D4pkxPhWS
Please sign the petition and share widely.
Its not anti-semitism its disgust with Israels and the Wests lack of moral integrity.
The UN needs to grow a pair! Where are they? They either urgently reform their systems or wither and die. They have been collectively useless, though many individuals have been doing good things, like Francesca Albanese who has been interviewed tens of times on all different forums. There are a fair few other people and there are now 295 dead UNWRA staff, an unthinkable number and have been subjected to a deliberate attempt, to destroy the agency.
I'm sure this has been mooted already but the structures are designed for the colonial powers to get their way and for most of the world to have very little chance of anything. They need to beef up the UN assembly and give it more power and completely change the security council and get rid of permanent members on it and vetos of it. It is designed to let genocide happen and make it unstoppable. Gutteres has to step up. He is a lovely man but is not good in this particular role. We need someone with balls.
While Trump meets Syrian's in Saudi Arabia, to broker a deal to repair Syria, with those he condems as "'terrorists" Isreal continues a genocide in Gaza, which he paid for..
To starve people, to deprive them of water, the most basic needs, to condone this horriric genocide while shopping in Saudi Arabia, with Syria can only be seen as what it is.
A country and a man driven by greed at the costs of two million Gaza residents. Which side is Trump on? Helping Isreal create a genocide killing Arabs, or meeting in Saudi with Syrians? I wonder what Isreal will feel if Trump rebuilds countries that are sworn enemies of Isreal?
The genocide in Gaza must be stopped. Do not underestimate what lengths he will go in the name of greed, not decency. At the very worst? The birthplace of civilization will be the end of it.
Expose the money here.Such dispicable behavior onthe partof Israel is unsupportable. The US must persuade theIsraelies that peace istheir ONLY alternative.
Call on the newly elected, American Pope Leo XIV to do what it takes to stop the destruction of Gaza, and the Palestinian people. Is there anything more important in today's world than this?
RIP, Pope Francis. I feel sure he will go to Gaza in spirit. Everyday, while he was alive he spoke by phone with the Holy Family church in Gaza. Let's keep the pressure on.
We, call on the newly elected, American Pope Leo XIV to do whatever it takes to save Gaza and stop the bombing, and end the starvation:
https://chng.it/gkvBfY44rq
Please sign the petition and share widely.
But no one minds.