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Jon Notabot's avatar

Here I am.- wondering from a position of relative luxury in the US - how it is that pedophile in chief Donald and secretary of murder Pete are to be believed by **anyone** - particularly on the current circumstances in Iran and the region. These are serial liars. Proven serial liars. How high are US and Israeli casualty counts, truly? How much of US-Israeli radar capabilities have been destroyed? What is the actual ratio of civilian infrastructure targeted vs Iranian military sites? Neither is legitimate, based on **all** the wildly differing claims for this atrocious killing spree, but the question remains.

I have a learned hunch on all three:

1)"Our" casualty counts are much, much higher than the stated "7" to-date.

2)"Our" early warning and detection systems in the region are severely crippled, if not decimated.

3)"Our" targets are selected not solely on degrading and deterring the Iranian military, but a more systemically inhuman strategy of breaking the very spirit of the Iranian **people**.

After all, nothing says "winning" like scrambling a **third** carrier strike group to the region. Liars and sadists.

Syed's avatar

Thanks for all the work you guys do at DS News

MissAnneThrope's avatar

Iran has a right to defend itself. Period. Full stop. I am deeply grateful for the superb, credible reporting here at DSN. The trusted relationships you've built over the many years have gained you the respect of the resistance leaders across the Middle East. Stay the course. Each day, more people are disgusted by the actions and lies perpetuated by the criminal mob destroying our world.

rosinpotatoes's avatar

interview with Joe Lauria and Scott Ritter from Consortiumnews:

"It's frightening how bad this is; greatest destruction to US military outfits since Pearl Harbor"

Q: What's the damage assessment of US Military outfits in ME?

A: They're not talking about it; Pentagon admitting worst damage since Pearl Harbor in terms of destruction ; Iranians are taking out US Military outfits piece by piece.

Q: What happens when Israels back to the wall, they've run out of intercepters; will Israel go nuclear?

A: Iran will have nukes within a month.

Q: Could this stop greater Israel in its tracks?

A: US is defeated in the Middle East; once the Gulf states stop producing oil, their economies collapse and Big Daddy is evicted from ME....Bahrain, SA, UAE, Qatar, Oman are at risk of collapse and their civilians are waking up to the fact that their leaders don't care about them; they're on their own.

Joe Lauria says this will be the last war Israel invokes the Holocaust in order to 'get what it wants' and propel US into war.

Fran Carbonaro's avatar

And then, there's always the "Samson option."

huey's avatar
Mar 9Edited

Picture how the Midlle East would be without Israel's constant agression masked as self defense.

Israel seems to be the root cause of all the trouble the US has had with the Arabs and Muslims since its creation. Israel is a country of religious fanatics.

Fran Carbonaro's avatar

Most Zionists are not religious; at least they were not at their inception (late 1800s). Zionism is more ideological than religious (and was funded initially be the wealthy banker, Baron Edmond James de Rothschild). The HUGE exception to this are the Christian Zionists, which number in the millions in the US. Mostly, I agree with you. And even my self-exiled Israeli friend, who left nearly 50 years ago, as well. Whatever its initial vision, Israel is now a lunatic society, for the most part.

Ayub Midea's avatar

Given the current conflicts involving nuclear-armed states like the U.S., Israel, and Pakistan, are we closer than we think to a leader actually authorizing the use of a nuclear weapon?

forceOfHabit's avatar

Sadly, yes. I would venture to guess that the Israeli's are the most likely to go nuclear if the war is going badly for them.

julia eden's avatar

if i'm not mistaken, the doomsday clock stands at 85 seconds to midnight these days.

Fran Carbonaro's avatar

Forgive me for injecting my "dream world" into your question: I had a dream (more like a vision) 2 weeks after Trump was elected in November of 2016, that a nuclear bomb was dropped in my vicinity of the US (I have these experiences that feel more real than life). I've carried this within for the last 10 years and then "he" was elected for the second time. Once it starts, where would it end?

Ayub Midea's avatar

I understand why a dream like that would stay with you. Sometimes when the world feels tense, our minds process those fears in different ways. My concern isn’t really about dreams predicting the future, but about the reality that global tensions are rising. Many people feel both political parties have failed to reduce these risks, and that frustration shaped the politics we see today. What worries me most is that several nuclear-armed countries are currently involved in conflicts. Hopefully cooler heads prevail, because once something like that starts, it would be very hard to contain.

George Leone's avatar

If anything, this war shows the limits of military coercion. Instead of breaking Iran, the U.S. and Israel have hardened resistance and pushed the region closer to a broader conflict. Once again, Washington’s strategy seems to create the very instability it claims to prevent.

forceOfHabit's avatar

"Once again, Washington’s strategy seems to create the very instability it claims to prevent."

Instability is in fact the goal: at some point, you have to watch what they do, not what they say.

julia eden's avatar

hegemons thrive on other countries' instability, on death and destruction until doomsday, don't they?

Mehrdad's avatar

Congrats to the Americans, they changed Taliban with Taliban in Afghanistan and now they changed Khamenie with Khamenie in Iran. lets hope Iran is now working on building that bomb as they may not get a better opportunity. And I am hoping they are holding on those better missiles for this purpose.

Ian Weniger's avatar

Thanks for the roundup from the horses' mouth. And that IRGC troop carrier is so new that the winch grapple hook and chain is still in its wrapper. Ramadan Mubarak, indeed.

julia's avatar

Trump is now talking about winding things up, saying he's accomplished just about everything he wanted to accomplish. That's how we know that radar installations have been hit very hard, that Israel is running out of interceptors, unable to defend itself, and terrified of the deadlier and faster ballistic missiles Iran has held back so far. The Iranians probably know better, this time, than to take the bait when Trump starts talking about a ceasefire.

Discount Gentleman's avatar

Is the US military being further mobilized? I hear rumors, but nothing concrete. Does DropSite have any insight?

Kenneth Burchell's avatar

THANK YOU Jeremy and Brian. I'm doubling up my subscription in gratitude and honor for what you're doing ... and risking.

Peter Pandle's avatar

Not much in this article makes sense. It is all speculation and very little else.

On the face of it, how can one offer to cease attack on a Gulf country, claiming to reserve the right to continue if the attacks continue, when the attacks on Iran from those countries have never stopped?

How can one argue that the attacks on those countries have achieved their goals and then have an escalation of attacks on Iran with the US using those same countries bases.

This sounds to me like a split in the Iranian regime. Perhaps the religious wing thinks being nice to their fellow Muslim states is the moral high ground.

The more practical military wing seems to have understood that only a closing of the straits and a display of ability to destroy installations in the Gulf States at will is the way to split these states from the US.

Although portrayed in the West as a rabid proponent of war, Khamenei vetoed the bomb, thus weakening Iran's deterance and did not pre-emptively attack US assets when they were massed on those Gulf State sites. Now the new leadership offers an olive branch?

It's very clear that only if you show a country you can smash their patrons defense of it can you get that country to run away from the patron.

julia eden's avatar

“operation epic mistake!“ conveys a sense of humor and, much more so, defiance!

bc unlike the gulf states and europe - barring spain’s pedro sanchez! - iran is unwilling to grovel to the hypocrite hegemons, whose only g.aim ever is to wreak havoc and reap skyrocketing benefits from it. the US’s willing allies, to the points of self-delusion and self-destruction, still don’t seem to want to heed kissinger’s words: “it may be dangerous to be america’s enemy. but to be america’s friend is fatal.“

iran has exercised much restraint, over decades, including recently, during the 12-day war in june last year. quite understandable that they now consider hitting israel harder. jeffrey sachs suggests another scenario, and i paraphrase: ‘israel should withdraw to its nat’l territory [borders of june 4, 1967], should stop making more messes, and start behaving like a normal state.’ how likely is that going to happen? “holding out now, despite the costs,“ seems the grimmer - and yet more promising? - choice.

thank you for another in-depth report that owes its credibility to the many reliable sources you draw on — to our benefit.

Chris G's avatar

Thanks for this in-depth backgrounder. It has sparked a few thoughts:

First, what is in it for the Gulf States to maintain close and dependent relations with the US, including hosting US bases, investing in Trump and US companies, while fronting a hostile attitude toward Iran?

The US is relatively self-sufficient in oil and gas, so the Arabs do not depend on the US market for its fossil fuel sales. Israel and the US are both aggressive expansionist States that put the entire world on edge, so the Arabs maintain good relations out of fear--not a healthy way to conduct a foreign policy. Also, US policies can change every four years but Iran will always be their big powerful neighbor--would it not behoove them to have better relations with Iran? Also, hosting US bases has not always worked out so well for these Gulf monarchies--remember the Khobar towers attack, and now even more destructive attacks? Finally, Iran will always have the option of closing the Straits of Hormuz? Shouldn't that be a major inducement not to irritate Iran by being a host to the US military?

My point is, it seems to me that this latest war makes it all the more important for the Gulf States to distance themselves from the US and work on improved relations with Iran.