There are all kinds of organizations who have been working, and continue to work, for justice in Palestine, Lebanon, and Yemen. Donate money to them, join them, some risk their lives trying to protect Palestinians in the West Bank against illegal settler rampages. There is much we can all do, not the least is educating ourselves, and others, so that the truth of what is going on can no longer be hidden.
Your vote won't make a difference in the results of the presidential election (though it may help drag some of those around you out of loyalty to the 2-party machine) or the escalating reinvasion. Direct action will - taking down the weapons manufacturers, colonial armies, & ultimately nation-states responsible for this. You can start small - campaign against a company making some part, a diplomat making some visit, etc.
Do not listen to such bullshit. If this only ends up Jill Stein's best year, there is a reason to vote against the evil in the world. It's not all about winning or losing, which is the narrow thinking of others; it's about having a huge number of growing voices heard that our world is too fragile for the existence of an Israel in its current form, or the existence of a USA that backs it.
Unfortunately, as badly as Biden has handled this, a vote for Stein is not a meaningful vote for a third party. It's a vote for Trump, who is even worse than Biden.
Many people believe like you. Typical Americans, like yourself, think in a binary fashion on this issue; you either win or you lose and election and voting 3rd party lends itself to supporting one genocidal party over the other. I call bullshit because most people who are voting for Stein are standing for their beliefs by not voting for either party. That it might help one be elected over the other has no weight with me and most likely with my fellow Stein supporters. We are tired of this two party system that supports wars and corporate power over people everything time and the win will be in the number of people who do support Stein. She most likely will not win the presidency because our country is too immoral to stand up and be heard, win or lose.
Understood completely. You might be tired with the system that has two main parties, one or the other of which always wins the presidential election, and you might object to corporate influence (so do I), but that is the reality.
So vote for Stein, and find out whether it was Harris or Trump who won.
I agree with you that the fact that voters mindlessly vote D or R is spineless, or, as you say, immoral, but it is also the reality.
I will remind you that it was Perot who got Clinton elected, twice. The Perot party had an influence. But that influence did not get Perot elected. You can criticize the system, but that's how it works.
By the way, who's your second choice after Stein? If your vote for Stein causes your second choice to lose by one vote, how will you feel?
For god's sake.....Harris is NOT crazy Trump plus crazy Vance....those 2 could really F up everything. Voting for a third party is completely irresponsible. Want to make a strong gesture? Then tattoo a message on your face.
You are welcome to your opinion but it isn't mine nor thousands of other uncommitted voters. We are voting against genocide. The rest of you moral reprobates can tattoo your asses for all I care.
How do you suggest poor people to take down these massive institutions you are talking about? You don't make much sense to me. Of course we need to take all those you mentioned out of service. We have but one peaceful avenues that is barely alive and much in the news about the sanctity of our votes for whomever. We are in a time when phones, walkie-talkies, pagers can be rigged to explode. I suggest you don't run for offices.
тАЬHow do you suggest poor people to take down these massive institutions you are talking about?тАЭ
The same way Palestinians plan to take down Israel.
тАЬI suggest you don't run for offices.тАЭ
Perhaps you misread my comment. IтАЩm against electoralismтАФrunning for office would be a bigger waste of my energy than showing up to the ballot box.
Other than voting Green Party Stein/Ware, calling and writing my electeds on the daily, what can I do to stop this madness? Appreciate your coverage.
There are all kinds of organizations who have been working, and continue to work, for justice in Palestine, Lebanon, and Yemen. Donate money to them, join them, some risk their lives trying to protect Palestinians in the West Bank against illegal settler rampages. There is much we can all do, not the least is educating ourselves, and others, so that the truth of what is going on can no longer be hidden.
YES YES YES!
Joy, could you share links to these?
Your vote won't make a difference in the results of the presidential election (though it may help drag some of those around you out of loyalty to the 2-party machine) or the escalating reinvasion. Direct action will - taking down the weapons manufacturers, colonial armies, & ultimately nation-states responsible for this. You can start small - campaign against a company making some part, a diplomat making some visit, etc.
Do not listen to such bullshit. If this only ends up Jill Stein's best year, there is a reason to vote against the evil in the world. It's not all about winning or losing, which is the narrow thinking of others; it's about having a huge number of growing voices heard that our world is too fragile for the existence of an Israel in its current form, or the existence of a USA that backs it.
Unfortunately, as badly as Biden has handled this, a vote for Stein is not a meaningful vote for a third party. It's a vote for Trump, who is even worse than Biden.
If Kamala Harris loses enough votes to Jill Stein or Cornel West, it will send a powerful message to the Democratic Party.
Many people believe like you. Typical Americans, like yourself, think in a binary fashion on this issue; you either win or you lose and election and voting 3rd party lends itself to supporting one genocidal party over the other. I call bullshit because most people who are voting for Stein are standing for their beliefs by not voting for either party. That it might help one be elected over the other has no weight with me and most likely with my fellow Stein supporters. We are tired of this two party system that supports wars and corporate power over people everything time and the win will be in the number of people who do support Stein. She most likely will not win the presidency because our country is too immoral to stand up and be heard, win or lose.
Understood completely. You might be tired with the system that has two main parties, one or the other of which always wins the presidential election, and you might object to corporate influence (so do I), but that is the reality.
So vote for Stein, and find out whether it was Harris or Trump who won.
I agree with you that the fact that voters mindlessly vote D or R is spineless, or, as you say, immoral, but it is also the reality.
I will remind you that it was Perot who got Clinton elected, twice. The Perot party had an influence. But that influence did not get Perot elected. You can criticize the system, but that's how it works.
By the way, who's your second choice after Stein? If your vote for Stein causes your second choice to lose by one vote, how will you feel?
For god's sake.....Harris is NOT crazy Trump plus crazy Vance....those 2 could really F up everything. Voting for a third party is completely irresponsible. Want to make a strong gesture? Then tattoo a message on your face.
Sorry, but I just donтАЩt buy this vote for the least worse candidate argument. If you vote for Harris, you support Harris and IsraelтАЩs actions.
You are welcome to your opinion but it isn't mine nor thousands of other uncommitted voters. We are voting against genocide. The rest of you moral reprobates can tattoo your asses for all I care.
How will voting for someone who won't win help the Palestinians in Gaza?
I am sure they would not think so. There are many other ways to help.
I'm not interested in voting for a third party or making "a strong gesture".
Join the rest of the reprobates. Won't go there with you.
How do you suggest poor people to take down these massive institutions you are talking about? You don't make much sense to me. Of course we need to take all those you mentioned out of service. We have but one peaceful avenues that is barely alive and much in the news about the sanctity of our votes for whomever. We are in a time when phones, walkie-talkies, pagers can be rigged to explode. I suggest you don't run for offices.
тАЬHow do you suggest poor people to take down these massive institutions you are talking about?тАЭ
The same way Palestinians plan to take down Israel.
тАЬI suggest you don't run for offices.тАЭ
Perhaps you misread my comment. IтАЩm against electoralismтАФrunning for office would be a bigger waste of my energy than showing up to the ballot box.
ThatтАЩs some peopleтАЩs excuse. But a peaceful change can only come about through the ballot box. If you want civil war, do nothing.
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I forgot about the Socialist candidate. So vote for Claudia Delacruz, Jill Stein, or Colin West.