The lies from Trump, Vance, and Leavitt about how the ceasefire did not include Lebanon are one more indication that Israel has made the White House one more of its "Occupied Territories."
Right, Safir. The Pakistani mediators, Pakistan's Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Army Chief and Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir are both serious, credible officials. Why would they lie about Lebanon which they clearly stated was included in terms ?
Netanyahu, like Trump, also needs to distract from his corruption crimes, if he’s removed from office he goes on trial. He’s promoting attacks on Israeli civilians in order to play the savior. He and Hamas we’re tightly bound in Gaza, each needed the other to stay in power.
More countries need to step up and put Israel in its place. They continue their barbarism by murdering innocent civilians, including journalists and healthcare providers, and creating chaos and instability in their region . They are establishing illegal settlements and murdering people in the West Bank. America doesn't have the moral courage to step up and put Israel in it's place, even though they could, so we need other countries to step in. This has got to stop at some point. Ridiculous.
About 800,000 Zionists currently live in apts on land stolen from West Bank Palestinians. A clear violation of International Law. 800,000 Palestinians from Gaza could move into the evicted illegal settlers homes. West Bank Zionists are worse than the KKK. Greater Israel is the Zionist version of LEBENSRAUM.
Make no mistake - Zionists believe that Jesus is a fraud and Christians have been denied rights and WILL ULTIMATELY BE EXPELLED from Greater Israel just as anyone else not Jewish.
israel will never stop shedding the blood of innocent civilians and journalist (plus aid workers, doctors, nurses etc). what a horrible nation of bloodthirsty people. trump is in the pocket of bloodthirsty israel, and toxic orange shitbrain trump thinks he's playing war games...he's equally disgusting. if france, EU, and uk would impose sanctions on israel to cease THEIR UNPOPULATING AND MASACRE OF INNOCENT PEOPLE IN LEBANON, IT MAY HELP.
I used to admire Israel and it's people. They had been so blatantly abused for centuries and finally they had a homeland. They had to fight hard to keep it and their people safe from a sea of hostile Arabs. But something happened to them (at least many of them) and they became just like their former persecutors; their actions in the West Bank especially were and are shameful and their response to the Oct 7 attack has been way over the line. Now the Israeli government is doing to Lebanon what the did to Gaza. They have been getting away with murder and it has to STOP. The UN created what has become this rogue state and it must do whatever is necessary to punish it now.
This reads like a case study in how fragile “ceasefires” have become—where one side treats them as binding and the other treats them as optional or narrowly defined. If Lebanon isn’t included, while strikes continue and settlements expand in the West Bank, it raises a serious question: is this actually de-escalation, or just a rebranding of ongoing conflict? Meanwhile, the fact that global powers are warning about food insecurity and energy disruption shows the consequences aren’t regional—they’re global.
Seth Harp: “Courtney Williams is a veteran, a mother, and a patriotic American. She has committed no crime. Trump’s unhinged DOJ will not even say what ‘classified information’ she allegedly leaked. Her arrest and imprisonment is an outrage,” Harp wrote on X.
"...During her first days on the job in 2010, Williams was informed that Israel was the only nation in which Delta Force would not do spying missions. "We were told in our training that we could never go to Israel in alias," she said. The operators who went there to work with the IDF were not even allowed to choose their own accommodations. The Israelis "put them in certain hotel rooms that were bugged..."
The Fort Bragg Cartel, Ch. Cover Girls, p.134, Seth Harp
Who can say who is a Khazar today? Netanyahu would have to do genetic testing. In any case, it seems some Khazars did convert to Judaism BUT they make up only a small percentage of the totality of the Jewish people. Most Jews, whether those who live/d in Europe or those from Muslim countries, have some Middle Eastern genes, even some Canaanite genes, according to latest tests. Those who call us "European settlers" ignore that and also choose to ignore that half of our Jewish population in Israel is either from Muslim countries of the Middle East or North Africa. We also have Jews from India and Ethiopia and the rest of the world. I cannot also but add that one correspondent made a big thing about the descendents of Ishmael, not only Isaac. The descendents of Ishmael have lots of large countries. Respect our right, as descendents of Isaac, to have our own little country. If that happened, we would not so aggressively defend our right to survive. Note our positive ties to the Emirates, Dubai, Bahrain, our brotherly ties to the Druze, our military alliance with Jordan. But the Iran regime and its proxies refise that.
Hezbollah has continued to attack Israel. That is not a blatant violation of the cease fire? Again, if Hezbollah had not attacked northern Israel, and there is a lot of damage to see, armed and encouraged by Iran, Israel would not attack back. It is hard to know what will finally remove the threat of Hezbollah. We have no territorial disputes with Lebanon. We used to have good border relations. The Lebanese government has not reined in Hezbollah, which has done terrible things to the general population. UNIFIL was an absolute failure in terms of preventing Hezbollah from making all of Southern Lebanon into a military base of missile positions, tunnels to store weapons (some from Russia and still in wrappers, so we sent them to Ukraine) and go under the border into Israel, turning the villages into missile launching sites. Again, Hezbollah exists because Iran wants to destroy Israel. If Hezbollah were removed without our intervention, the villagers could go home, rebuild and we would live in peace. But there are those who will ignore what is done to Israel, in order to blame Israel for being attacked. I am very critical of many things my government does, but in this case, to place the initial blame on us simply ignores the facts to make political points.
People in the United States are NOT stupid! We know all about the ILLEGAL AND IMMORAL AND NOT “GOD GIVEN” idea of a “GREATER ISRAEL”!! You think we don’t know?? We know WHO STARTED ALL OF THIS & it was NOT Hezbollah!! IT WAS ISRAEL TRYING (& FAILING) TO TRY FALSE FLAGS (just like OCT 7 WAS A FALSE FLAG! & 9/11 WAS YET ANOTHER ISRAELI SATANYAHU FALSE FLAG!!) TO TRY TO FOOL PEOPLE & IT DIDN’T WORK!! WE DON’T BUY ISRAEL’S CRAP ANYMORE!! Hezbollah is striking Israel BC ISRAEL IS STRIKING THEM AND TRYING TO STEAL THEIR FAMILY’S LAND!!! ISRAEL MISTAKENLY THINKS THAT LEBANON BELONGS TO ISRAEL. IT DOES NOT!! GOD DID NOT GIVE ISRAEL-(& BTW, THERE ARE 12 TRIBES (!) NOT JUST JUDAH-THE WORST OF ALL OF THEM! JUDAH SOLD JOSEPH INTO SLAVERY BC HE WAS JEALOUS!!) that land SO STOP EXCUSING THE EVIL BUTCHERY OF SATANYAHU ET AL TO STEAL ALL THE LAND!!! GAZA BELONGS TO THE PALESTINIANS-WHO ARE REAL SEMITES TOO!! Get over yourself! You do NOT deserve the land of Lebanon and it will NEVER be yours! GOD DOES NOT BLESS MURDERERS!! Regardless of all your praying at the wall-HE DOES NOT HEAR THOSE WHO VIOLATE HIS WORD!! Israel has WANTONLY MURDERED THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE AND THEY WILL ANSWER FOR IT!! YOU CANNOT ACT FIRST AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS LATER!! Remember? SAUL TRIED THAT ONE AND SAMUEL CALLED HIM OUT FOR IT & GOD REPLACED SAUL WITH DAVID!! Lebanon belongs to the LEBANESE!! NOT TO ISRAEL. Israel has VIOLATED THE 6th & 8th Commandments!! Thou shalt NOT kill!! Thou shalt NOT steal!!! And ISRAEL DID ALL OF THIS FIRST-BEFORE ANYONE ELSE RETALIATED!! Israel is GUILTY. PERIOD. And all of your screaming otherwise DOES NOT CHANGE GOD’S LAWS!!
so, imagine you have a home and property that you and your family has lived in for generations....
then someone from a government comes along and says they have given half your house and property to some refugees from another country.
these refugees do not pay for your property, they say they are 'entitled' to it....
then they start occupying more rooms in your house without your permission and once again not paying....
and...you are just going to sit back and say OK to all of this?????
if you are american you would be suing everyone and every governmemt available because 'HOW DATE ANYONE STEAL YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY FROM YOU'....
everything the osraeli government says and does is a lie. and just increases the hatred of people like you who are losing their homes and property to the rude, vicious, aggressive refugee people.
not cool eh?
palestine was inhabited by arab muslims for a long time
..longer than the refugees (who had all lived in europe for thousands of years)....
sure they were discriminated against in europe, but that gives them zero right to discriminate against the long term inhabitants of israel, and subsequent stealing and occupying even more...
sounds like the israelis believe in nazi hitlers goal of lebensraum....and we are supposed to support and believe in these neo nazi israelis?
the reason why there will always be people who hate israel is very obvious. the israeli belief that masacres are ok as long as its done by israel is pathetic, disgusting hypocrisy.
So, despite all of the hate and historical distortions, a few words. To the first person: we recognize Lebanon's borders. If we were not being attacked, we would not be going into Lebanon to get rid of Hezbollah. No Hezbollah would mean no Israeli soldiers going to fight in Lebanon. As for the history: we lived in the Land of Israel from the 12th century BCE on and have had continuous representation there, even when a minority. We have dreamed to return, from ALL the lands of the exile, not only Europe, but also many Muslim countries, including Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Iran and all of North Africa, from which we were expelled, with no compensation. It is a lie that we were only in Europe. Arab populations came and went. We are historically the long-term inhabitants. We are Semites, as shown by history, language, archeology. Do Muslims live among us? Yes, with full citizen rights. There are many Muslim countries in the area. There is only one Israel for the Jewish people. Yes, sometimes areas get divided up, as were Pakistan and India. Sad that you are so full of hate for the one Jewish state.
It is NOT just a “Jewish” state. As I said before, there ARE 12 tribes of which Judah is but one. And do not forget that BOTH Ishmael and Isaac were the sons of Abraham. Therefore, both sons are Semitic. I do not hate the people-there is ONE PERSON-SATANYAHU-who deserves to be despised by the entire world. Him and Ben-Giver, Smotrich, and the Likud party.
So sad that you cannot tolerate the one state that belongs to the descendents of Isaac. So many states that belong to the descendents of Ishmael. After our War of Independence, remaining Arabs stayed, by and large, in their homes, became citizens, part of society, now are doctors, nurses, lawyers, Knesset members, etc. Jordan, Syria, Lebanon put the refugees in refugee camps, never gave them citizenship. I.e. we treated the remaining Palestinians better than their "brothers". Going back to 1947, the UN approved partition. The Arabs attacked and lost. The war and its losses were because of Arab aggression. Partition did work pretty well in Pakistan/India. Yes, some people on both sides had to move, it has not been perfect, but it has mostly been peaceful. By the way, if you talk about tribes, no question that the West Bank was inhabited by Tribes of Israel in Biblical times. The archeology is mostly there, though Palestinians have destroyed some. I am not going to respond any more. I doubt ot will matter to such hate filled people.
I am not discounting what you have been saying. Yes, Arabs & others have attacked you and yes terrible things have been done by many groups of people. Many of them by your own people -George Schwartz Soros-for one. And yes, originally the tribes were assigned areas that were places for their families to live. I do not hate the descendants of Isaac-I am one of them through Ephraim. What I cannot tolerate is the absolute arrogance of the Khazarians who claim they are Jewish but they are not. That’s who SATANYAHU is. He’s no more a blood line Jew than Yassir Arafat was. He’s not a real Jew. He’s not even a Semite. I used to love Israel & I still do as far as the actual place is concerned. But I cannot tolerate murder of anyone-especially mass murder through collective punishment & that is what SATANYAHU has been trying to do. THAT is what I cannot tolerate. Obviously you are a thoughtful and well reasoned person. I think we are speaking past each other. I agree that there are many things and situations that have occurred on both sides. What I think most people want to know is WHY? In the meantime, many of Daniel’s prophecies are being fulfilled.
and as for muslims having ‘full or equal’ rights in israel….you are just proving yourself a proponent of apartheid by saying that.
no people who are oppressed and have their land occupied (and stolen from them on a regular basis) will agree with you. military law for muslims/non jewish palestinians?
you are ‘full of it’ and prolly not interested in learning anything from anyone else, and in that eventuaality, we have zero need to discuss….
semites became a religion, so the original languages of semites have changed to accommodate religions. if a semite changes their religion, they still remain semites
i think you are confusing the facts for your own benefit.
if a semite who changes their religion and is opposed by semites who don’t change their religion, who is being antisemitic?
can you not see the utter hypocrisy? the marketing of the term ‘antisemitism’ has been usurped by a religion…
racism/bigotry/discrimination are actions owned by many different groups of ppl thoughout millenia….it’s not owned by jews because of pogroms or nazi genocide…. think armenian genocide, think about the spanish inquisition and the centuries of catholic church actions of genocide and murder of ‘heretics’, and how about the slaughter and ethnic cleansing of the native inhabitants in N and S america by colonial ‘christian’ powers of europe.
it would be great if you could read a non-biased/non-religious account of humanity on this planet….maybe you’ll agree with a fellow israeli noah yuval hariri in his many books…..
please stop all this propaganda unless your sole aim is propaganda and to enlighten others as to your lack of study in this regard…
just because u guyz made up a story about god (who made the whole earth) who then decided to just focus on a few thousand ppl in 1 spot on the whole planet, it is not factual basis for having any rights to the land….and in modern day law, those claims are inadmissable…. there is no 1 million-year-leasehold-rights granted to anyone….
modern day history is not a distortion. your rationale is a distortion. if homoerectus travelled out of africa and inhabited the area first, what use is the claim that jews speaking aramaic or any other language were actually the earliest inhabitants. your argument defeats itself in it’s own dependence on fairy story ‘made-up-facts’
can u give us some accurate/truthful figures of #israelis killed/injured by hezbollah attacks vs ppl living in southern lebanon/beirut who have been killed/injured by israelis?
from the israeli ‘defensive’ operations in gaza, it appears you and israelis value 1 israeli life = 30 palestinian lives….
let me know if that is the horrific belief of you and israel?
let’s put your claims of ‘distortion’ under the microscope shall we????
You are right that more Palestinians have been killed than Israelis. We have used the best defenses we have. But war cannot be fought on a basis of one to one killed on each side. My point, which remains objectively true is that if one attacks or builds an arsenal specifically to attack and eliminate another nation, one can expect the attacked to use the best means to eliminate the threat. Iran has spent 47 years building its regime and arsenal of missiles, as well as highly enriched uranium, with the very publicly declared intent of destroying Israel and has attacked Jews throughout the world. As for its proxies that it armed and trained: Hamas launched a cruel and vicious attack on Israel on 7.10.23, killing 1200 Israelis (including Bedouin who tried to defend Jewish Israelis) and taking 251 hostages. Israel RESPONDED to that attack. Same when Hezbollah attacked on 8.10.23 and has also attacked during the Iran war that began a month ago. If Hamas and Hezbollah had not attacked, there would have been NO fatalities. Until the Islamic revolution in Iran, we had very good relations with Iran. So, now we have responded to real threats and attacks, as would any sane country.
As for our historic claim to the land of Israel, it is amazing how much ignorance I am seeing in the responses. We are a Semitic people, whose language is a Semitic language adn many of us carry Middle Eastern genes. Our presence in the Land of Israel from at least the 12th century BCE is well documented, not only by the Bible, but also by other written documentation (beginning with the Merneptah stele) and many archeological finds, many made by European and American Christians. Jewish presence in the Land of Israel can be continually traced since then and we never lost our desire to reestablish our homeland. There was never a sovereign state called Palestine. Yes, there was a population of Arabs, who were called Palestinians only from about 100 years ago, here. The UN voted to partition Mandatory Palestine in 1947 between a Jewish state and an Arab state. We accepted, the Arabs launched and lost the war, which resulted in many being expelled. Those who remained are now completely part of Israeli society. The Six Day War, which gave us Judea and Samaria, was also launched by Egypt and Jordan, Egypt by closing the access to Eilat in May, 1967 and Jordan by sending tanks into Jerusalem, not far from where I live. Again, the Arabs lost. As for final borders and the creation of a Palestinian state, which never existed in the past, the Palestinians have turned down every deal offered to them by moderate Israeli governments. Yes, within Judea and Samaria, there are separate laws for Jews and Arabs and it is not a good situation. But again, instead of rejecting every offer of peace, it is long past due making peace, setting up borders, which include our historic rights in Jerusalem and agreeing to recognizing our legitimacy throughout the Muslim world. I.e., eliminating the threat of Iran and its proxies. You would get a much kinder and friendlier Israel. All we want is that in a sea of so many Muslim nations in the Middle East, we have our one Jewish island in our proven historic homeland. Enough of bogus and created alternative "facts". As I noted once before, but this time I will keep my word, I am not going to respond any more. I just suggest that anyone reading this learn objective history.
Your response is exactly why I wrote that I am not continuing. What you call "the same sad story" is based on scientific research and historic documentation. So the room for changing it is minimal. You just don't like it because it does not fit the "narrative" that has been fed to you. This makes the discussion pointless.
Since when has Israel NOT "blatantly" violated any ceasefire... ever!!!
The lies from Trump, Vance, and Leavitt about how the ceasefire did not include Lebanon are one more indication that Israel has made the White House one more of its "Occupied Territories."
Right, Safir. The Pakistani mediators, Pakistan's Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Army Chief and Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir are both serious, credible officials. Why would they lie about Lebanon which they clearly stated was included in terms ?
Netanyahu bombs Lebanon, because he wants the war to continue
Until we have killed all Iranians.......like he did in Gaza
He wants to create an Israeli Empire
He doesn't care about American lives
Netanyahu, like Trump, also needs to distract from his corruption crimes, if he’s removed from office he goes on trial. He’s promoting attacks on Israeli civilians in order to play the savior. He and Hamas we’re tightly bound in Gaza, each needed the other to stay in power.
Indeed, good observation
Israel does whatever it wants as long as the US political system is under the MONETARY influence of a foreign country Zionist Israel.
More countries need to step up and put Israel in its place. They continue their barbarism by murdering innocent civilians, including journalists and healthcare providers, and creating chaos and instability in their region . They are establishing illegal settlements and murdering people in the West Bank. America doesn't have the moral courage to step up and put Israel in it's place, even though they could, so we need other countries to step in. This has got to stop at some point. Ridiculous.
About 800,000 Zionists currently live in apts on land stolen from West Bank Palestinians. A clear violation of International Law. 800,000 Palestinians from Gaza could move into the evicted illegal settlers homes. West Bank Zionists are worse than the KKK. Greater Israel is the Zionist version of LEBENSRAUM.
Make no mistake - Zionists believe that Jesus is a fraud and Christians have been denied rights and WILL ULTIMATELY BE EXPELLED from Greater Israel just as anyone else not Jewish.
https://davcer.substack.com/p/genocide-coming-to-you-live
israel will never stop shedding the blood of innocent civilians and journalist (plus aid workers, doctors, nurses etc). what a horrible nation of bloodthirsty people. trump is in the pocket of bloodthirsty israel, and toxic orange shitbrain trump thinks he's playing war games...he's equally disgusting. if france, EU, and uk would impose sanctions on israel to cease THEIR UNPOPULATING AND MASACRE OF INNOCENT PEOPLE IN LEBANON, IT MAY HELP.
israel should sanctioned and boycotted.
I used to admire Israel and it's people. They had been so blatantly abused for centuries and finally they had a homeland. They had to fight hard to keep it and their people safe from a sea of hostile Arabs. But something happened to them (at least many of them) and they became just like their former persecutors; their actions in the West Bank especially were and are shameful and their response to the Oct 7 attack has been way over the line. Now the Israeli government is doing to Lebanon what the did to Gaza. They have been getting away with murder and it has to STOP. The UN created what has become this rogue state and it must do whatever is necessary to punish it now.
This reads like a case study in how fragile “ceasefires” have become—where one side treats them as binding and the other treats them as optional or narrowly defined. If Lebanon isn’t included, while strikes continue and settlements expand in the West Bank, it raises a serious question: is this actually de-escalation, or just a rebranding of ongoing conflict? Meanwhile, the fact that global powers are warning about food insecurity and energy disruption shows the consequences aren’t regional—they’re global.
Free Courtney Williams!
Seth Harp: “Courtney Williams is a veteran, a mother, and a patriotic American. She has committed no crime. Trump’s unhinged DOJ will not even say what ‘classified information’ she allegedly leaked. Her arrest and imprisonment is an outrage,” Harp wrote on X.
"...During her first days on the job in 2010, Williams was informed that Israel was the only nation in which Delta Force would not do spying missions. "We were told in our training that we could never go to Israel in alias," she said. The operators who went there to work with the IDF were not even allowed to choose their own accommodations. The Israelis "put them in certain hotel rooms that were bugged..."
The Fort Bragg Cartel, Ch. Cover Girls, p.134, Seth Harp
Who can say who is a Khazar today? Netanyahu would have to do genetic testing. In any case, it seems some Khazars did convert to Judaism BUT they make up only a small percentage of the totality of the Jewish people. Most Jews, whether those who live/d in Europe or those from Muslim countries, have some Middle Eastern genes, even some Canaanite genes, according to latest tests. Those who call us "European settlers" ignore that and also choose to ignore that half of our Jewish population in Israel is either from Muslim countries of the Middle East or North Africa. We also have Jews from India and Ethiopia and the rest of the world. I cannot also but add that one correspondent made a big thing about the descendents of Ishmael, not only Isaac. The descendents of Ishmael have lots of large countries. Respect our right, as descendents of Isaac, to have our own little country. If that happened, we would not so aggressively defend our right to survive. Note our positive ties to the Emirates, Dubai, Bahrain, our brotherly ties to the Druze, our military alliance with Jordan. But the Iran regime and its proxies refise that.
Hezbollah has continued to attack Israel. That is not a blatant violation of the cease fire? Again, if Hezbollah had not attacked northern Israel, and there is a lot of damage to see, armed and encouraged by Iran, Israel would not attack back. It is hard to know what will finally remove the threat of Hezbollah. We have no territorial disputes with Lebanon. We used to have good border relations. The Lebanese government has not reined in Hezbollah, which has done terrible things to the general population. UNIFIL was an absolute failure in terms of preventing Hezbollah from making all of Southern Lebanon into a military base of missile positions, tunnels to store weapons (some from Russia and still in wrappers, so we sent them to Ukraine) and go under the border into Israel, turning the villages into missile launching sites. Again, Hezbollah exists because Iran wants to destroy Israel. If Hezbollah were removed without our intervention, the villagers could go home, rebuild and we would live in peace. But there are those who will ignore what is done to Israel, in order to blame Israel for being attacked. I am very critical of many things my government does, but in this case, to place the initial blame on us simply ignores the facts to make political points.
People in the United States are NOT stupid! We know all about the ILLEGAL AND IMMORAL AND NOT “GOD GIVEN” idea of a “GREATER ISRAEL”!! You think we don’t know?? We know WHO STARTED ALL OF THIS & it was NOT Hezbollah!! IT WAS ISRAEL TRYING (& FAILING) TO TRY FALSE FLAGS (just like OCT 7 WAS A FALSE FLAG! & 9/11 WAS YET ANOTHER ISRAELI SATANYAHU FALSE FLAG!!) TO TRY TO FOOL PEOPLE & IT DIDN’T WORK!! WE DON’T BUY ISRAEL’S CRAP ANYMORE!! Hezbollah is striking Israel BC ISRAEL IS STRIKING THEM AND TRYING TO STEAL THEIR FAMILY’S LAND!!! ISRAEL MISTAKENLY THINKS THAT LEBANON BELONGS TO ISRAEL. IT DOES NOT!! GOD DID NOT GIVE ISRAEL-(& BTW, THERE ARE 12 TRIBES (!) NOT JUST JUDAH-THE WORST OF ALL OF THEM! JUDAH SOLD JOSEPH INTO SLAVERY BC HE WAS JEALOUS!!) that land SO STOP EXCUSING THE EVIL BUTCHERY OF SATANYAHU ET AL TO STEAL ALL THE LAND!!! GAZA BELONGS TO THE PALESTINIANS-WHO ARE REAL SEMITES TOO!! Get over yourself! You do NOT deserve the land of Lebanon and it will NEVER be yours! GOD DOES NOT BLESS MURDERERS!! Regardless of all your praying at the wall-HE DOES NOT HEAR THOSE WHO VIOLATE HIS WORD!! Israel has WANTONLY MURDERED THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE AND THEY WILL ANSWER FOR IT!! YOU CANNOT ACT FIRST AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS LATER!! Remember? SAUL TRIED THAT ONE AND SAMUEL CALLED HIM OUT FOR IT & GOD REPLACED SAUL WITH DAVID!! Lebanon belongs to the LEBANESE!! NOT TO ISRAEL. Israel has VIOLATED THE 6th & 8th Commandments!! Thou shalt NOT kill!! Thou shalt NOT steal!!! And ISRAEL DID ALL OF THIS FIRST-BEFORE ANYONE ELSE RETALIATED!! Israel is GUILTY. PERIOD. And all of your screaming otherwise DOES NOT CHANGE GOD’S LAWS!!
"Again, Hezbollah exists because Iran wants to destroy Israel."
Not just Iran, my friend, but every non-American/ non-Ziofascist vassal state on the globe.
There will never be peace on earth while Israel exists.
so, imagine you have a home and property that you and your family has lived in for generations....
then someone from a government comes along and says they have given half your house and property to some refugees from another country.
these refugees do not pay for your property, they say they are 'entitled' to it....
then they start occupying more rooms in your house without your permission and once again not paying....
and...you are just going to sit back and say OK to all of this?????
if you are american you would be suing everyone and every governmemt available because 'HOW DATE ANYONE STEAL YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY FROM YOU'....
everything the osraeli government says and does is a lie. and just increases the hatred of people like you who are losing their homes and property to the rude, vicious, aggressive refugee people.
not cool eh?
palestine was inhabited by arab muslims for a long time
..longer than the refugees (who had all lived in europe for thousands of years)....
sure they were discriminated against in europe, but that gives them zero right to discriminate against the long term inhabitants of israel, and subsequent stealing and occupying even more...
sounds like the israelis believe in nazi hitlers goal of lebensraum....and we are supposed to support and believe in these neo nazi israelis?
the reason why there will always be people who hate israel is very obvious. the israeli belief that masacres are ok as long as its done by israel is pathetic, disgusting hypocrisy.
zero support and zero compassion.
So, despite all of the hate and historical distortions, a few words. To the first person: we recognize Lebanon's borders. If we were not being attacked, we would not be going into Lebanon to get rid of Hezbollah. No Hezbollah would mean no Israeli soldiers going to fight in Lebanon. As for the history: we lived in the Land of Israel from the 12th century BCE on and have had continuous representation there, even when a minority. We have dreamed to return, from ALL the lands of the exile, not only Europe, but also many Muslim countries, including Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Iran and all of North Africa, from which we were expelled, with no compensation. It is a lie that we were only in Europe. Arab populations came and went. We are historically the long-term inhabitants. We are Semites, as shown by history, language, archeology. Do Muslims live among us? Yes, with full citizen rights. There are many Muslim countries in the area. There is only one Israel for the Jewish people. Yes, sometimes areas get divided up, as were Pakistan and India. Sad that you are so full of hate for the one Jewish state.
It is NOT just a “Jewish” state. As I said before, there ARE 12 tribes of which Judah is but one. And do not forget that BOTH Ishmael and Isaac were the sons of Abraham. Therefore, both sons are Semitic. I do not hate the people-there is ONE PERSON-SATANYAHU-who deserves to be despised by the entire world. Him and Ben-Giver, Smotrich, and the Likud party.
So sad that you cannot tolerate the one state that belongs to the descendents of Isaac. So many states that belong to the descendents of Ishmael. After our War of Independence, remaining Arabs stayed, by and large, in their homes, became citizens, part of society, now are doctors, nurses, lawyers, Knesset members, etc. Jordan, Syria, Lebanon put the refugees in refugee camps, never gave them citizenship. I.e. we treated the remaining Palestinians better than their "brothers". Going back to 1947, the UN approved partition. The Arabs attacked and lost. The war and its losses were because of Arab aggression. Partition did work pretty well in Pakistan/India. Yes, some people on both sides had to move, it has not been perfect, but it has mostly been peaceful. By the way, if you talk about tribes, no question that the West Bank was inhabited by Tribes of Israel in Biblical times. The archeology is mostly there, though Palestinians have destroyed some. I am not going to respond any more. I doubt ot will matter to such hate filled people.
good that you don't respond. propaganda does not equate to facts.
however, you have a right to choose propaganda over facts....
PS. your use of the term 'hate filled people' is pretty childish
I am not discounting what you have been saying. Yes, Arabs & others have attacked you and yes terrible things have been done by many groups of people. Many of them by your own people -George Schwartz Soros-for one. And yes, originally the tribes were assigned areas that were places for their families to live. I do not hate the descendants of Isaac-I am one of them through Ephraim. What I cannot tolerate is the absolute arrogance of the Khazarians who claim they are Jewish but they are not. That’s who SATANYAHU is. He’s no more a blood line Jew than Yassir Arafat was. He’s not a real Jew. He’s not even a Semite. I used to love Israel & I still do as far as the actual place is concerned. But I cannot tolerate murder of anyone-especially mass murder through collective punishment & that is what SATANYAHU has been trying to do. THAT is what I cannot tolerate. Obviously you are a thoughtful and well reasoned person. I think we are speaking past each other. I agree that there are many things and situations that have occurred on both sides. What I think most people want to know is WHY? In the meantime, many of Daniel’s prophecies are being fulfilled.
and as for muslims having ‘full or equal’ rights in israel….you are just proving yourself a proponent of apartheid by saying that.
no people who are oppressed and have their land occupied (and stolen from them on a regular basis) will agree with you. military law for muslims/non jewish palestinians?
you are ‘full of it’ and prolly not interested in learning anything from anyone else, and in that eventuaality, we have zero need to discuss….
semites became a religion, so the original languages of semites have changed to accommodate religions. if a semite changes their religion, they still remain semites
i think you are confusing the facts for your own benefit.
if a semite who changes their religion and is opposed by semites who don’t change their religion, who is being antisemitic?
can you not see the utter hypocrisy? the marketing of the term ‘antisemitism’ has been usurped by a religion…
racism/bigotry/discrimination are actions owned by many different groups of ppl thoughout millenia….it’s not owned by jews because of pogroms or nazi genocide…. think armenian genocide, think about the spanish inquisition and the centuries of catholic church actions of genocide and murder of ‘heretics’, and how about the slaughter and ethnic cleansing of the native inhabitants in N and S america by colonial ‘christian’ powers of europe.
it would be great if you could read a non-biased/non-religious account of humanity on this planet….maybe you’ll agree with a fellow israeli noah yuval hariri in his many books…..
please stop all this propaganda unless your sole aim is propaganda and to enlighten others as to your lack of study in this regard…
just because u guyz made up a story about god (who made the whole earth) who then decided to just focus on a few thousand ppl in 1 spot on the whole planet, it is not factual basis for having any rights to the land….and in modern day law, those claims are inadmissable…. there is no 1 million-year-leasehold-rights granted to anyone….
modern day history is not a distortion. your rationale is a distortion. if homoerectus travelled out of africa and inhabited the area first, what use is the claim that jews speaking aramaic or any other language were actually the earliest inhabitants. your argument defeats itself in it’s own dependence on fairy story ‘made-up-facts’
can u give us some accurate/truthful figures of #israelis killed/injured by hezbollah attacks vs ppl living in southern lebanon/beirut who have been killed/injured by israelis?
from the israeli ‘defensive’ operations in gaza, it appears you and israelis value 1 israeli life = 30 palestinian lives….
let me know if that is the horrific belief of you and israel?
let’s put your claims of ‘distortion’ under the microscope shall we????
You are right that more Palestinians have been killed than Israelis. We have used the best defenses we have. But war cannot be fought on a basis of one to one killed on each side. My point, which remains objectively true is that if one attacks or builds an arsenal specifically to attack and eliminate another nation, one can expect the attacked to use the best means to eliminate the threat. Iran has spent 47 years building its regime and arsenal of missiles, as well as highly enriched uranium, with the very publicly declared intent of destroying Israel and has attacked Jews throughout the world. As for its proxies that it armed and trained: Hamas launched a cruel and vicious attack on Israel on 7.10.23, killing 1200 Israelis (including Bedouin who tried to defend Jewish Israelis) and taking 251 hostages. Israel RESPONDED to that attack. Same when Hezbollah attacked on 8.10.23 and has also attacked during the Iran war that began a month ago. If Hamas and Hezbollah had not attacked, there would have been NO fatalities. Until the Islamic revolution in Iran, we had very good relations with Iran. So, now we have responded to real threats and attacks, as would any sane country.
As for our historic claim to the land of Israel, it is amazing how much ignorance I am seeing in the responses. We are a Semitic people, whose language is a Semitic language adn many of us carry Middle Eastern genes. Our presence in the Land of Israel from at least the 12th century BCE is well documented, not only by the Bible, but also by other written documentation (beginning with the Merneptah stele) and many archeological finds, many made by European and American Christians. Jewish presence in the Land of Israel can be continually traced since then and we never lost our desire to reestablish our homeland. There was never a sovereign state called Palestine. Yes, there was a population of Arabs, who were called Palestinians only from about 100 years ago, here. The UN voted to partition Mandatory Palestine in 1947 between a Jewish state and an Arab state. We accepted, the Arabs launched and lost the war, which resulted in many being expelled. Those who remained are now completely part of Israeli society. The Six Day War, which gave us Judea and Samaria, was also launched by Egypt and Jordan, Egypt by closing the access to Eilat in May, 1967 and Jordan by sending tanks into Jerusalem, not far from where I live. Again, the Arabs lost. As for final borders and the creation of a Palestinian state, which never existed in the past, the Palestinians have turned down every deal offered to them by moderate Israeli governments. Yes, within Judea and Samaria, there are separate laws for Jews and Arabs and it is not a good situation. But again, instead of rejecting every offer of peace, it is long past due making peace, setting up borders, which include our historic rights in Jerusalem and agreeing to recognizing our legitimacy throughout the Muslim world. I.e., eliminating the threat of Iran and its proxies. You would get a much kinder and friendlier Israel. All we want is that in a sea of so many Muslim nations in the Middle East, we have our one Jewish island in our proven historic homeland. Enough of bogus and created alternative "facts". As I noted once before, but this time I will keep my word, I am not going to respond any more. I just suggest that anyone reading this learn objective history.
you’ve rehashed the same sad story.
truly, we have different intellectual capabilities.
over and out.
Your response is exactly why I wrote that I am not continuing. What you call "the same sad story" is based on scientific research and historic documentation. So the room for changing it is minimal. You just don't like it because it does not fit the "narrative" that has been fed to you. This makes the discussion pointless.