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Charlie Henderson 🇵🇸's avatar

Absolute monsters…

They’re just going to keep killing.

I will *never* support Israel. And the fact that we’re having basic first amendment rights challenged for THIS government? It’s pure insanity. With Trump openly saying kill them all, what can we do besides encouraging the rest of the world to divest from the U.S. in any way that they can? Why are these fucking assholes making me root for the downfall of my country’s place in the world?

Sorry, I’m just at such a loss right now.

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huey's avatar

Its hard for me to come to terms with my country taking part in this horrible GENOCIDE.

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Teri's avatar

You can support Israel and still stand against Netanyahu and his extremists. It’s beyond tragic that survivors of the camps are continuing the vicious cycle, as the victims become the victimizers.

Humans never seem to learn.

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MaryAnne's avatar

At least 60% - 70% of Israelis support their government. It isn’t just extremists. I will never support Israel.

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Louise Rolingher's avatar

It is so hard to understand why people who have been victims of fascism can turn around and become fascists themselves. Moreover, they insist that they are still victims when that is clearly not true.

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Martin Krisko's avatar

How are Jews victims of fascism? Fascism and Nazism are not the same thing. Fascism is an authoritarian nationalist ideology, while Nazism is a specific racial ideology built around genocide. Jews were victims of Nazism, not fascism in general.

I agree that the Israeli government has fascist traits, but linking these two things doesn’t serve any real purpose. What you’re essentially saying is: How can a society that was oppressed by an authoritarian regime end up creating its own authoritarian regime that oppresses others? The answer is simple—this is a common occurrence throughout history.

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Teri's avatar

Yes, this is a time when we all must own the collective guilt for the inhumane and illegal actions done by our governments in our name. Doesn’t matter if we didn’t vote for it, the world sees the whole, not individual citizens. We get to face the same repercussions as those who landed us in this insanity, because INFLATION!

SMFH.

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Corylus cornuta's avatar

How, Teri? The country was founded on ethnic cleansing. It’s reigns with a violent occupation. Peace and justice will only be achieved by the death of Zionism and the modern genocidal state of Israel.

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Charlie Henderson 🇵🇸's avatar

I have seen no evidence that this is some small inner circle around Netanyahu. Rather, this savagery has forced me to call into question not only how deep this venom goes, but everything that goes into allowing it to exist. The money, the weapons, the diplomatic cover at the U.N, the pressure campaigns from the U.S. on the ICC and ICJ, the propaganda that this foreign nation is an ally despite everything pointing to the contrary, the fact that there are laws in the majority of U.S. states that prevent me from openly boycotting this ONE nation, and the outright McCarthy style fear mongering and illegal repression of basic first amendment rights makes the idea that I could ever, in good conscience, support ANY government responsible for so much evil seem like a nonstarter in my lifetime.

But hey, things change. Maybe Israel will oust their modern day Nazi party members, give back all of the stolen land, pay to rebuild Gaza, jail everyone that made this genocide happen, actively seek to end their apartheid system, sign peace deals with all of those around them, and stop spending millions of dollars in U.S. politics to allow actual opposition.

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Teri's avatar

You totally nailed it! The utter lack of a moral compass in Netanyahu and the RW settlers is horrifying, and the Felon is their top cheerleader. I loathe what the Israeli regime is doing to the Palestinians, and I know there is support for these atrocities. I don’t support what our gov’t is doing either, and there must be Israelis who are outraged at the crimes against humanity that their gov’t is committing in their name. The world is teetering on the edge of the abyss.

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Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

Maybe when pigs can fly.

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Teri's avatar

And I’ve never known any entity, human or organization, that willingly admits guilt or voluntarily makes restitution to its victims. That’s what legal systems are supposed to do, if they’re not stressed to the breaking point, and ours is just about there. 🤬

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laurie miller's avatar

I sympathise with you I get so angry to think that the Jews in general are doing this, it’s beyond belief after the Nazi holocaust that they would be worse than Hitler. Some one like Netanyahu should be gassed for the memory of tens of thousands of children and their mothers that he murdered

lauriemillerjade.com

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Teri's avatar

Same old story…the victim(s) becomes the abuser(s).

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