Glad we're in agreement. I don't begin to pretend that the US or Israel represent "civilization". In my definition you don't qualify for civilized if you can't provide clean water, food , housing and clothing to ALL the people in your society. That's how you get people off the apps you aptly mention.
Glad we're in agreement. I don't begin to pretend that the US or Israel represent "civilization". In my definition you don't qualify for civilized if you can't provide clean water, food , housing and clothing to ALL the people in your society. That's how you get people off the apps you aptly mention.
Human history is full of such civilizations in fact, but Abrahamism has never produced a single one. The God of Abraham favors the rich and that means the perpetual creation of "poor and needy" . I'm sorry, but if your spiritual system has been wringing its hands over the "poor and needy" for literally thousands of years without any change in that regard your concern is certainly not credible. Plus, the Torah celebrates the ethnic Supremacy of the Jew Supreme. Jew, KKK, Proud Boy, Nazi, White Supremacist, same difference as they say.
Glad we're in agreement. I don't begin to pretend that the US or Israel represent "civilization". In my definition you don't qualify for civilized if you can't provide clean water, food , housing and clothing to ALL the people in your society. That's how you get people off the apps you aptly mention.
Human history is full of such civilizations in fact, but Abrahamism has never produced a single one. The God of Abraham favors the rich and that means the perpetual creation of "poor and needy" . I'm sorry, but if your spiritual system has been wringing its hands over the "poor and needy" for literally thousands of years without any change in that regard your concern is certainly not credible. Plus, the Torah celebrates the ethnic Supremacy of the Jew Supreme. Jew, KKK, Proud Boy, Nazi, White Supremacist, same difference as they say.