Fred, I understand your feelings today as they are shared by many, including me, but I must respond about the Stein vote that I think you dismiss to easily. I had to face some rage in supporting her, intended to intimidate me based on your view, and I feel deeply about the democratic principle involved.
Fred, I understand your feelings today as they are shared by many, including me, but I must respond about the Stein vote that I think you dismiss to easily. I had to face some rage in supporting her, intended to intimidate me based on your view, and I feel deeply about the democratic principle involved.
Nobody can know the future, but one does know which candidate one wants to see in office. What is certain without question is that no candidate can win without votes. Thus, one is bound to vote for the person desired since to not do so is to refuse that person office as far as it is in the power of that voter to determine. My conscience is clear because in voting I was doing all I could for Stein, whatever the decisions of other voters might be. That is democracy.
Re the name change, my wife's deceased husband's grandparents came from eastern Europe with the name Berkowitz. Like your grandfather, changed it to Berkow. My name, Brown, sounds American all right, but I am sorry to say my great-grandfather, Jesse Brown, was a slave owner and cotton broker in Memphis, TN. I understand Trump wants to change military base names back to the Confederate names they had before. What would the Yanofsky's and Berkowitz's think of Trump?
The most impressive and concerning thing I have seen about the election results are shown on a map by the NYT. Go to the link following and click on the small map at the left that is titled "shift from 2020" that shows the shift by county.
Clif, when you say "nobody can know the future, but one does know which candidate one wants to see in office," if you think there was any possibility in the universe that Stein might win, and that neither Harris nor Trump would, I think you're kidding yourself. Imagine it this way: Stein is by far your first choice, but either Harris or Trump is your distant second choice. So you vote for Stein, because she's the one you'd like to see in office. Stein gets a small collection of votes in your state, and either Harris or Trump wins by one vote. And your second choice was not the one who won. Had you voted for Harris or Trump, whichever one lost by one vote, there would have been a tie, which would have been resolved by some method. Are you still glad you voted for Stein, and handed your state to the candidate who might win, at the cost of the other candidate who might win, and whom you would have preferred to the one you got?
As for naming military bases for Confederates, I always wonder if Republicans think Russian streets should be named for Stalin, or German streets for Hitler, or Iraqi streets for Sadam Hussein? Donnie claims to have no respect for losers, but he likes Confederates? (Of course he does like insurrectionists, so maybe he's willing to ignore the fact that they were losers.)
I don't understand why anyone, except very rich people who want to get richer for some reason, would vote for Trump. Many of those red arrows are reportedly Hispanics, who don't seem to know what Donnie claims to think of immigrants, and what he'd like to do to them. And if he forgets, he'll have Stephen Miller up his ass.
Fred, I understand your feelings today as they are shared by many, including me, but I must respond about the Stein vote that I think you dismiss to easily. I had to face some rage in supporting her, intended to intimidate me based on your view, and I feel deeply about the democratic principle involved.
Nobody can know the future, but one does know which candidate one wants to see in office. What is certain without question is that no candidate can win without votes. Thus, one is bound to vote for the person desired since to not do so is to refuse that person office as far as it is in the power of that voter to determine. My conscience is clear because in voting I was doing all I could for Stein, whatever the decisions of other voters might be. That is democracy.
Re the name change, my wife's deceased husband's grandparents came from eastern Europe with the name Berkowitz. Like your grandfather, changed it to Berkow. My name, Brown, sounds American all right, but I am sorry to say my great-grandfather, Jesse Brown, was a slave owner and cotton broker in Memphis, TN. I understand Trump wants to change military base names back to the Confederate names they had before. What would the Yanofsky's and Berkowitz's think of Trump?
The most impressive and concerning thing I have seen about the election results are shown on a map by the NYT. Go to the link following and click on the small map at the left that is titled "shift from 2020" that shows the shift by county.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/05/us/elections/results-president.html
Clif, when you say "nobody can know the future, but one does know which candidate one wants to see in office," if you think there was any possibility in the universe that Stein might win, and that neither Harris nor Trump would, I think you're kidding yourself. Imagine it this way: Stein is by far your first choice, but either Harris or Trump is your distant second choice. So you vote for Stein, because she's the one you'd like to see in office. Stein gets a small collection of votes in your state, and either Harris or Trump wins by one vote. And your second choice was not the one who won. Had you voted for Harris or Trump, whichever one lost by one vote, there would have been a tie, which would have been resolved by some method. Are you still glad you voted for Stein, and handed your state to the candidate who might win, at the cost of the other candidate who might win, and whom you would have preferred to the one you got?
As for naming military bases for Confederates, I always wonder if Republicans think Russian streets should be named for Stalin, or German streets for Hitler, or Iraqi streets for Sadam Hussein? Donnie claims to have no respect for losers, but he likes Confederates? (Of course he does like insurrectionists, so maybe he's willing to ignore the fact that they were losers.)
I don't understand why anyone, except very rich people who want to get richer for some reason, would vote for Trump. Many of those red arrows are reportedly Hispanics, who don't seem to know what Donnie claims to think of immigrants, and what he'd like to do to them. And if he forgets, he'll have Stephen Miller up his ass.