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MaryAnne's avatar

A concentration camp within a concentration camp.

Gary Stewart's avatar

This is reminiscent of the United States' creation of the Native American reservation system. Take control of indigenous lands and remove the indigenous people from it through violence, environmental destruction and forced treaties that were subsequently ignored, making the land no longer livable (e.g., kill all the buffalo), combined with concentrating the inhabitants in exceedingly small areas (e.g., Trail of Tears) that were not well-supported, in an effort to marginalize and destroy indigenous culture, while using the previous indigenous-inhabited lands for colonization and resource extraction (cattle, mining, agriculture, railroads, settlers). The entire process was founded on racism, dehumanization, land appropriation and wealth transfer.

Don Dagenais's avatar

The indians started killing all the buffalo as soon as paleface handed them a firestick and showed them how to ride a horse.

There was never any "Stewardship of the land and resources" as some like to attribute to indians. It was a lack of capability, due to lack of brainpower to invent.

Steve Woodward's avatar

Yeah, after thirty thousand years or so, they hadn't built a single shopping mall, or superfund toxic wasteland. What were they thinking?

Good thing we whites showed up to teach the primitives how to trash a continent.

Don Dagenais's avatar

Steve, what I have been pointing out, it was not by any intention or thought, that indians left the lands undeveloped and the wildlife pristine. It was because they were (and on most cases still are) undeveloped as a homosapien. average IQ 65

Please name an invention or innovation which can be attributed to indians which has improved the human condition? I'll give you a month. Tobacco is not one, btw.

Don Dagenais's avatar

From that study:

A gradual decline of the bison population started with the introduction of the horse and the arrival of Europeans.

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The assumption being paleface gave indians firesticks (and they went wild). One need to look no further than indians using machine guns to kill whales and helicopters to hunt wolves to substantiate that claim.

Further from the study and more damning:

The data showed that the income of formerly bison-reliant nations remained 25% lower than those of other Indigenous nations....

So effectively, the indian tribes (nationhood is a paleface construct) who alwasy relied on Bison for livelyhood faired worse that other tribes.

I was told a story handed down though my family of indians sitting on the edge of the plains, drooling at the protein on the hoof and no way to get it till paleface gave them a horse and gun.

Gary Stewart's avatar

You have not provided any academic or historical references. I would be curious to see what you consider authoritative.

As to your reading of the study cited, provide the full quote, not your mischaracterization based upon a cherry-picked opening sentence only.

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A gradual decline of the bison population started with the introduction of the horse and the arrival of Europeans. By 1870, however, mass slaughter of the animals began. Factors that drove the kill-off included the completion of the transcontinental railroad, improvements in European tanning technology that made bison hides more desirable and encouragement by the U.S. Army to eliminate the animals to help in their efforts to force Indigenous peoples onto reservations.

In some regions, the bison was eliminated in a little more than a decade. Jones and her co-authors describe the slaughter as one of the largest and most rapid losses of a critical industry in North American history.

“Centuries of human capital were built around the use of the bison, and within 10 to 20 years this economic underpinning disappeared,” Jones says. “And many channels of economic adjustment were cut off for Indigenous populations.”

Indigenous people were forced onto reservations, their movements were restricted and they were not allowed to become citizens of the United States until 1924, the authors note.

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Also, the 25% lower income was a legacy of the loss of their centuries-long cultural practices.

Your IQ claim above and your family's "story" are pure racism, sir.

Provide credible sources or citations.

Debate otherwise ended on account of racism.

Don Dagenais's avatar

I read it and yes, cherry picked. Just like AI would support an argument.

it's like you think racism is a bad thing....

Here is your requested IQ data.

https://human-intelligence.org/race-differences-in-intelligence/

Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

Palestinians should be housed in the illegal settlements built on their territory and those funded ( with USA fund, most likely) by approval from the Isreli legislature, to build MORE illegal settlements. All of this housing and the destruction of housing and businesses since Oct 7 2023, should be replaced by illegal settlements on Palestinian territory. If Israel wants safety for it's currently illegally settlers, now in Palestine, let them find housing for them inside Israel in homes abandoned by the tens of thousands of Isreali citizens who have left or who will leave that nation. There is room for illegal Settlers in Israel now, within legal Isreli boarders. Allow those displaced to return to Palestine if they can prove Palestinian citizenship or the testimony of others, if they have no papers that survived the war. Documentation of this should begin now.

Don Dagenais's avatar

Perhaps house them in sonotubes like workers in HongKong live in. Stacked, you can get a lot of hillbillys in a small space. Bonus.

Until these squatters agree to settle down and leave Israel alone, they can expect that there will be no mercy. And that their efforts to gain land - not theirs, will only lead to a diminished population and quality of life.

Gaza prior to Oct 23 was thriving with shopping malls and many amenities. But because the sheeple living there, got stirred up by Iran's proxy to go on a savage attack, they have lost everything. Wha wha wha - suck it up!

And the proxy leadership - sipping cool drinks in Qatar. Live be good for them. Why would they give up their arms and attacks? What incentive is there for them?

Suti's avatar

Disgusting comment.

Don Dagenais's avatar

Sure. disgusting.

As disgusting as Gaza dwellers putting babies in ovens, dragging young women off to rape mutilate and murder in their attack on Israel Oct 23.

But someone has to tell truth to those of you who are wallowing in your own stew. I take it from your nametag, you are a Francophonie.

Your days are numbered, as creeping islam takes over your country.

Didn't you question why the majority of the unwashed oozing across the Med to your doorstep were fighting age males?