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MaryAnne's avatar

A concentration camp within a concentration camp.

Gary Stewart's avatar

This is reminiscent of the United States' creation of the Native American reservation system. Take control of indigenous lands and remove the indigenous people from it through violence, environmental destruction and forced treaties that were subsequently ignored, making the land no longer livable (e.g., kill all the buffalo), combined with concentrating the inhabitants in exceedingly small areas (e.g., Trail of Tears) that were not well-supported, in an effort to marginalize and destroy indigenous culture, while using the previous indigenous-inhabited lands for colonization and resource extraction (cattle, mining, agriculture, railroads, settlers). The entire process was founded on racism, dehumanization, land appropriation and wealth transfer.

Don Dagenais's avatar

The indians started killing all the buffalo as soon as paleface handed them a firestick and showed them how to ride a horse.

There was never any "Stewardship of the land and resources" as some like to attribute to indians. It was a lack of capability, due to lack of brainpower to invent.

Steve Woodward's avatar

Yeah, after thirty thousand years or so, they hadn't built a single shopping mall, or superfund toxic wasteland. What were they thinking?

Good thing we whites showed up to teach the primitives how to trash a continent.

Don Dagenais's avatar

From that study:

A gradual decline of the bison population started with the introduction of the horse and the arrival of Europeans.

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The assumption being paleface gave indians firesticks (and they went wild). One need to look no further than indians using machine guns to kill whales and helicopters to hunt wolves to substantiate that claim.

Further from the study and more damning:

The data showed that the income of formerly bison-reliant nations remained 25% lower than those of other Indigenous nations....

So effectively, the indian tribes (nationhood is a paleface construct) who alwasy relied on Bison for livelyhood faired worse that other tribes.

I was told a story handed down though my family of indians sitting on the edge of the plains, drooling at the protein on the hoof and no way to get it till paleface gave them a horse and gun.

Gary Stewart's avatar

You have not provided any academic or historical references. I would be curious to see what you consider authoritative.

As to your reading of the study cited, provide the full quote, not your mischaracterization based upon a cherry-picked opening sentence only.

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A gradual decline of the bison population started with the introduction of the horse and the arrival of Europeans. By 1870, however, mass slaughter of the animals began. Factors that drove the kill-off included the completion of the transcontinental railroad, improvements in European tanning technology that made bison hides more desirable and encouragement by the U.S. Army to eliminate the animals to help in their efforts to force Indigenous peoples onto reservations.

In some regions, the bison was eliminated in a little more than a decade. Jones and her co-authors describe the slaughter as one of the largest and most rapid losses of a critical industry in North American history.

“Centuries of human capital were built around the use of the bison, and within 10 to 20 years this economic underpinning disappeared,” Jones says. “And many channels of economic adjustment were cut off for Indigenous populations.”

Indigenous people were forced onto reservations, their movements were restricted and they were not allowed to become citizens of the United States until 1924, the authors note.

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Also, the 25% lower income was a legacy of the loss of their centuries-long cultural practices.

Your IQ claim above and your family's "story" are pure racism, sir.

Provide credible sources or citations.

Debate otherwise ended on account of racism.

Cynthia Marchant's avatar

I accidentally liked this but b assured,.I dont. What a s**tty comment And baseless.

Don Dagenais's avatar

Sorry, speaking truth to virtual signallers like you hurts, I know.

Usually this helps - name an invention or innovation originating from North American native culture which has enhanced the human condition.

OH... and Tobacco does not count.

Cynthia Marchant's avatar

I'm not American & my knowledge of North American native culture is wanting I admit. Still, it must be relevant that Indians came across the Bering Sea during the Ice Ages & must have mostly North Asian origins - like the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans & Mongolians - inventive people all. North America being especially icy - Canada covered by kms of ice until maybe 15,000 years ago - presumably the 1st immigrants gravitated southwards along the coast, eventually forming Mesoamerican & Peruvian cultures which preceded the Incas & Aztecs. Surely North Americans only began settling the north & spreading out later & in still-cold conditions? But Mesoamericans & South Americans developed modern maize & potatoes, by centuries of selective breeding.

So there you are: that's 2 innovations of great importance. Potatoes especially are a fabulous food with just about everything necessary to sustain life as long as you eat enough, exercise a lot & not fry them. They were a godsend for European peasants - easily grown, & underground, so they couldn't be burnt by marauding armies. The potato famine occurred because EUROPEANS until then grew only one type but problem solved by introducing more types. Egyptian, Sumerian & other early Afro-Euro-Asian cultures were able to start developing much earlier, in much more favourable climatic & geographic conditions - eg around the ice-free Nile, Tigris & Euphrates, & eventually the almost enclosed Mediterranean & Black seas helped not only agriculture but trade & human communication. Travel over water was much easier than land travel once boat construction improved.

So potatoes & maize. OK, products of Central & South not North America but the peoples' genetic origins must have been the same.

(Apologies & pls be forgiving folks of the cultural blunders I've no doubt made above).

hierochloe's avatar

there's so much more as well, from the frozen north to the south, and the innovations shouldn't be limited to what some fat, white slob that can barely lift themselves off the couch finds improving of their own miserable human condition

Don Dagenais's avatar

The typical NA native were not agrarian, but hunter gatherers. And there is almost no similarity between the peoples of Central&South American vs Johny RunningSore who lived in North America.

Central&South Americans built sustainable cultures and sustainable structures. The NA indians, pretty much stumbled around the country killing each other and soiling were ever they went, (burying???) grandma in trees til their parts fell to the ground createung in-numerous "sacred burial grounds, with a very very few exceptions.

hierochloe's avatar

"usually this helps" your profound racist retardation is on full display, your ask only "helps" for dipshits

Don Dagenais's avatar

By your blurt, it's evident you can't name an invention or innovation originating from North American native culture which has enhanced the human condition.

Why is being proud of one's own race so abhorrent to your types?

hierochloe's avatar

I could write a book on all the things because unlike yourself my brain is bigger than John Wayne movies. There's a difference between pride and downright racism fueled by sheer stupidity/ignorance. Your mere existence in the universe is an existential hole below the waterline in your ridiculous notion of supremacy. Buh-bye!

Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

Palestinians should be housed in the illegal settlements built on their territory and those funded ( with USA fund, most likely) by approval from the Isreli legislature, to build MORE illegal settlements. All of this housing and the destruction of housing and businesses since Oct 7 2023, should be replaced by illegal settlements on Palestinian territory. If Israel wants safety for it's currently illegally settlers, now in Palestine, let them find housing for them inside Israel in homes abandoned by the tens of thousands of Isreali citizens who have left or who will leave that nation. There is room for illegal Settlers in Israel now, within legal Isreli boarders. Allow those displaced to return to Palestine if they can prove Palestinian citizenship or the testimony of others, if they have no papers that survived the war. Documentation of this should begin now.

Raoul Christensen's avatar

The zionist entity doesn't have legally recognized borders. It's on occupied land!

Free free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 from the river, to the sea.

Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

I agree that Israel sees Palestine, Lebanon and all the nations they are still bombing as potentially Israel. Their war will continue forever unless their neighbors OR the rest of the world stops them.

Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

The creaping yellow line is moving into half of Gaza and Gaza and the West Bank will disappear to allow Isreali military control of the entire strip. Talk about trending in the wrong direction.... It will take the world threatening to cut off arms to Israel and to boycott the Isreli economy. This "Board of Peace" obstruction effort is a red herring to allow this to take place. Palestein has experts to begin their own recovery process with support from other nations to open the gates to humanitarian aide and equipment already outside their boarders and that can come from the rest of the world.

Don Dagenais's avatar

Palestine is part of Jordan and Syria, not any part of the current land that Palestinians claim is their's. Israel was on that land 2,500 years before these hillbillies showed up and have tried to claim.

Dav Cer's avatar

Zionism is to Judaism as white supremacy is to Christianity and Jihad is to Islam. The Greater Israel project guarantees NO PEACE in future as the racists - worse than the KKK - steal land from Lebanon, Syria, etc. ONE "group" just does not fit into the neighborhood - conflicts with Iran, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Qatar, etc. If Israel lived in a condo they would have been evicted long ago for constant hostility with neighbors.

Don Dagenais's avatar

Neither Zionism or White Supremacy are core to their respective religions. Jihad is core to Islam, which is not a religion, but a dogma.

Yeff Story's avatar

This is blatantly false.

Don Dagenais's avatar

Which part is false??? That Jihad is not part of Islam, which Islamics constantly brag that it is? Or the fact that Islam is not old enough to be a religion? Religions need about 2000 years to become stable. Islam expands through forced conversions.

Bebe Schroer's avatar

Auswitch 2.0. Where are the Zionists putting their ovens? Whole Lotta creeping, dragging, oozing, stewing and wallowing going on for sure, Bubba.

Don Dagenais's avatar

Perhaps house them in sonotubes like workers in HongKong live in. Stacked, you can get a lot of hillbillys in a small space. Bonus.

Until these squatters agree to settle down and leave Israel alone, they can expect that there will be no mercy. And that their efforts to gain land - not theirs, will only lead to a diminished population and quality of life.

Gaza prior to Oct 23 was thriving with shopping malls and many amenities. But because the sheeple living there, got stirred up by Iran's proxy to go on a savage attack, they have lost everything. Wha wha wha - suck it up!

And the proxy leadership - sipping cool drinks in Qatar. Live be good for them. Why would they give up their arms and attacks? What incentive is there for them?

Suti's avatar

Disgusting comment.

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Scott Hanson's avatar

Ever fact checked the BS you spread? Then fact check what the Israelies have done before mouthing off. There are always those of you that have to have a boogey man in their lives.

Don Dagenais's avatar

Why yes, thank you, I do fact check. And I am quite comfortable in what I present. There was a question about the babies in the ovens, but the counter to their story was by Hamas, when they realised they may have gone a bit too far in their attack.

Ands the rapes and mutilations, videos from Hamas "journalists" documented that.

Scott Hanson's avatar

Rapes and mutilations have been done by Israelies also. That is what I was getting at.What happened on Oct 7th was disgusting , Years of Israelie abuse did lead to this. You must remember it was Hamas not all of the Palestinians. I sure do not want to be blamed for my corrupt, lying, con artist President we now have in charge of the US and wish he was the one thrown in an oven.

Don Dagenais's avatar

Please provide photographic evidence of rapes and mutilations carried out by IDF.

Hamas enjoys 93% support amongst Gaza dwellers. That is close enough for me.

I would take Trump over the hamster gang who occupied the WhiteHouse prior any day.

Sleepy Joe, knows no where to go, but never passed up an opportunity to slobber all over sub 10yo girls.

Kamala Harris, prtending she is black when her mommy is indian, daddy is white and her grand daddy owned more than a 1000 slaves in Jamaica.

Raoul Christensen's avatar

"the majority of the great unwashed, oozing across the med," are zionists fleeing their apartheid project in occupied Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 and seeking refuge in Cyprus, Greece and even Portugal.

Now we're hearing reports of zionists setting Patagonia alight. Must be reassessing their "ancestral" option, of Argentina and searching around for their 3000 years of "historical ties," so that they can occupy, that "homeland for the jews."

Don Dagenais's avatar

Wow! a five minute google would clear up your thoughts of the world on fire. Argentina is rife with Nazis. they see jews everywhere - but foremost in their dreams.

Raoul Christensen's avatar

Zionists and Nazis are blood brothers, after all, so while they "dream" about their kin, the rest of us have nightmares!

John alder's avatar

Deal the Israeli with a bunch of rodeo bulls