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Jon Notabot's avatar

Schumer, Jeffries and the entrenched Democratic establishment had better do everything and anything in their power to make sure we do NOT attack Iran. This is my red line. I will NEVER vote again - for anything.

No more war on behalf of Israel, no more war for oil, no more war for territory, no more war for the oligarchy.

Shut it down.

Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

I'm with you on that, Jon. I believe there was a law passed recently to stop USA bombing of Iran. Invocing the War Powers Act, again, that can stop him "rhinking about it.. Financial and military boycots, against Isreal , should the USA be part of their attacks of any other nations in the area, should be part of the legislation enacted by Congress.

Jeffrey S Medley's avatar

I am sorry, but the Democratic Establishment supports this war with Iran. I will never vote for any Democrat that ever supported Israel or any war with Iran. Democrat Ro Khanna and my favorite Republican Thomas Massie are trying to get a floor vote on the this Iran war. At least then we would know exactly who voted Yes or No.

huey's avatar

We need regime change in the US.

George Leone's avatar

What’s most disturbing here isn’t just that Donald Trump reportedly dreams of “regime change glory” in Iran. It’s that key Democrats appear less concerned with preventing a catastrophic war than with calculating who benefits politically from it.

We’ve seen this movie before. The march to Iraq was fueled by ego, ideology, and careerism masquerading as strategy. Now Iran — a far larger, more regionally embedded power — is being discussed like a midterm chess piece. If even a fraction of this reporting is accurate, then some in leadership believe war is both “necessary” and politically useful — so long as Trump owns the fallout. That’s not opposition. That’s complicity by indifference.

If lawmakers truly oppose another Middle East war, they should back binding War Powers action, force a public debate, and make clear that regime change fantasies — whether from the White House or think tanks — are unacceptable. Anything less is moral cowardice.

Thousands of lives, regional stability, and U.S. servicemembers are not campaign strategy variables. They’re human beings.

Steve Woodward's avatar

Spineless, amoral idiots. Both parties' leaderships. In their Machievellian calculations, the value they place on the lives of Persian civilians or the lives of the U S troops, is zero. They're absolutely psychotic.

How many Persians and Americans have to die to delay the Epstein files' release? Fucking sick.

Raoul Christensen's avatar

US service members signed up for this, Iranian civilians did not, while American civilians will be safely out of range!

Steve Woodward's avatar

Many U S service members were duped into believing that the cause they were signing up for is noble, protecting American lives and "freedom." (Keep in mind that, in males at least, the cerebral cortex isn't fully developed until around the age of 25, and they are thus gullible to being duped by our military/industrial/tech propaganda machine. I don't blame them for being conned. I blame the cynical, psychotic leaders, in both parties, who conned them.)

Raoul Christensen's avatar

Ae, I realise that their are many reasons why people enlist in the military, one is pragmatism. The military provides educational oppotunities for those unable to afford college.

The notion that you protect American lives, by deploying your "defence" forces all over the globe, is bemusing. It comes at a great cost to the lives of others.

But I take your points!

huey's avatar

Is Israel going to pay for the cost to the US tax payers of this operation.

Does Iran pose an actual physical threat to the US? or just Israel?

Raoul Christensen's avatar

Are the zionist entity and the US going to pay Iran reparations, for the loss of life and destruction of infrastructure?

mamacat's avatar

I saw today that nope, in fact we owe it to isreal to pay for rebuilding of gaza

Robert Alan's avatar

It’s highly dubious that Iran is a physical threat to Israel, though cynical Israeli politicians have learned that the pretense of a threat is a good way for them to stay in power.

Kenneth's avatar

I am against an attack on Iran. While the current leadership is not what looks sustainable to me, the country deserves wise, humane, & compassionate leaders. Trump is hardly the sensible person to choose the new leadership. Iran is also a sovereign power, & the US has no right to interfere in its regime. I am Rev Dr Kenneth D Stephens

Teresa's avatar

The Pedo in chief will never be remembered for anything other than the Epstein/Trump files, raping and sex trafficking children, putting Israel first, and his looting of the Treasury and the attempted subjugation of the American people with his private for profit army ICE/IDF and concentration camps. Israel wants this war and has for decades and found the perfect administration to get it done, Israel is trying to complete all their objectives with American cash and weapons and military personnel, before the end of Trumps term. Israel was fucking bombing Lebanon again today.

Robert Alan's avatar

Trump may be remembered most for being the first full-on fascist president of the United States.

Teresa's avatar

Thank you, and agreed. However, I want to keep Pedophile First full-on fascist President of the United States. And he didn’t get there on his own!

Jeffrey S Medley's avatar

Would Joe Biden or Kamala Harris have supported a war with Iran on Israel’s behalf? Yes, I think they probably would have.

Teresa's avatar

I agree. They are both Zionists; Kamala is a Zionist Jewish Israel Firster. She and her husband, are friends with Netanyahu and his family. She has taken over $9 million from AIPAC and other Israel Lobby Groups and PACS, so far. She was ready to appoint her brother in law Attorney General, who is actually best friends with Netanyahu, if she had won the election. Joe and Kamala have been diehard Zionists their entire political careers and there are plenty of videos online showing them at AIPAC events and fundraisers, declaring their devotion and solidarity with Israel. Kamal was also integral in shutting down free speech at Columbia, USC, and other University’s by students and faculty during their peaceful protests for Palestine, which included all faiths. She even had them arrested, and expelled, with the help of Hilary Clinton who is also a Zionist and become quite wealthy in the process.

Lulu's avatar

I’m against the war only because innocent Iranians will die but if Iran can end the terrorist state of Israel then I’m all in!

Jeffrey S Medley's avatar

Lulu: I agree with you 100%. If there is a war with Iran, I hope Iran will fire their ballistic missiles at Israel first.

Richard's avatar

Your in-depth reporting, as always, is great. What the ill-informed majority of people need to know, however, is that the U.S./Israel policy is to achieve Mideast (and beyond) regional hegemony. Iran stands in their way. The assault on Iran will continue in one form or another until Iran is destroyed. There is no opposition to this policy except by progressive socialists.

James Staudt's avatar

This war is all about what Israel wants. They want Iran to become a failed state, like Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Libya. Schumer wants a war since he’s all about Israel. So too for most Democratic leadership. Like Iraq, if not for Israel, there would be no war.

John Dunker's avatar

The last thing we need is a war with Iran and its proxies. But …

Trump would need an off-ramp from which he can claim credit for avoiding war, free from the TACO characterization.

Iran believes it needs to resume its nuclear energy program, without the indignity of being the sole country in the region subject to IAEA oversight inspections.

Perhaps this would be the time to introduce (re-introduce?) the idea of a Middle-East Nuclear Weapon-Free Zone, one that would require Israel, also, to allow IAEA inspections of its nuclear arsenal and associated infrastructure. Trump would have to pull in Netanyahu, of course - perhaps the toughest part. Chances are slim, but the process could cool the war talk, while educating the public about one key aggregator of tensions.

Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

The Congress passed a law after we last bombed Iran that there was no longer to be air attacks beteen the USA forces and Iran. Do we need to get the word out to the Joint Chiefs of Staff that prosecution for breaking Federal laws will be taken for those who break the law, President included. He might flee prosecution in his other nation of Trumpland, otherwise known as Gaza? What better way to let him see the handiwork of war?

Robert Alan's avatar

Puhlease, Trump does not care about laws or judicial decisions. If necessary, he will fire the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff and replace them with war-loving sycophants who will execute his orders.

Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

I was present in Kenya when there was an attempted coup by the Military. Other military leaders stopped the attempt. Consider how many regime changes happen with Military leading them. It could happen here. Hugo Chavez has been brought back to power, after being ousted by politicians, by the MIlitary. Know they have power for immediate change of regimes. It can happen here.If Trump continues to violate the Constitutional need for Congress to declare war, will they just say NO.

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Billy Glad's avatar

Sounds like if Trump had half a brain he'd go to Congress for authorization.

Paul Bourdon's avatar

You mean the Israel First democrats want war with Iran?

Zero's avatar

The Democrats are no different than the Republicans: Both want regime change because both are Islamophobic and racist. They can’t stand to see a government that opposes Western imperialism (like Little Marco described in his Munich speech) by representing a political system not covered by Montesquieu and John Locke. This is the same motivation behind the 2-parties’ opposition to the Muslim Brotherhood.

The only reason I would want a U.S. attack on Iran is that Iran would respond by bombing the living hell out of Israel, which, to me, is a very good thing. I’d be willing to sacrifice thousands of Iranians if thousands of Israelis were killed as a result. Maybe a regime change in Tel Aviv or even the destruction of the entire fascist state..

Otherwise, Iran is not Venezuela. Neither party gave 2 shits about Maduro and neither give a damn about Iran. But Iran is more sophisticated, has more internal support, and has regional relations that otherwise oppose U.S.-Israeli intervention.

I have a photo on my desktop of Trump Tower currently under construction in Dubai. It may well be the first target (aside from Tel Aviv) in Iran’s response to such an assault. I’m sure Donald would hate to see his “beautiful building” crumble (along with many other truly beautiful buildings in Dubai and in Abu Dhabi).

So are Grim, Scahill, and Hussain’s sources merely spewing out bravado and Israeli propaganda, hoping it will “scare” Iran into capitulating? Or is this an action that they truly intend to deliver, regardless of what happens this week in Geneva?

The U.S. needs to think twice or three times before launching such an attack. And the Democrats should stand against imperialism, but I guess that’s too much to ask.

Sue in CO's avatar

Hill sources tell Drop Site that many Democrats remain convinced a war with Iran is both the right policy and beneficial politically for them.

Robert Alan's avatar

Chuck Schumer has long been an ultra-Zionist and Iran hawk. Those instincts probably motivate him more than electoral considerations. If he truly cared about winning elections, he would have spent his career supporting and working to pass popular legislation instead of serving the interests of wealthy elites.