2. I'll make it real clear this time. As alluded to my first post (and second). The Second counter offensive was not successful at all (ie virtually no regained territory). The first was. So it wasn't a question it was literally reiterating you statement of
"Show me maps where Ukraine has recaptured *and held* any significant territories since the first vaunted counterattack began."
Don't be daft (maybe impossible but please try)
But I am a nice guy I will find a truthful and accurate map starting beginning in 2020 to now of all territory regained by the Ukraine forces of the second counteroffensive if you show me the 'Asiatic' Countries in the Russian Federation for the same period!
3. Being provoked removes personal agency. Also, your analogy sucks, Mexico was never physically/culturally a part of the United States like Ukraine was to Russia/Historical SU/RE. Cuba Missile Crisis would have been better but not perfect. Russian republic was never in threat of losing territory during the millennium by NATO and they still are not now. Kaliningrad is and has always been easiest territory to take... you need a map for that or video 4k video of a Russian speaker telling you really slowly using a power point? Let me know when the invasion will happen by NATO forces. Seems like they are taking their sweet fucking time.
3.5 Crimea was annexed with minimal bloodshed to Russia. NATO/US and Ukraine didn't do shit before and afterward. You think the Crimeans can vote which country they want to join every year with rotating band of different countries occupying forces?
Oh and remember, please read AND comprehend before answering!
2. You said countries. Russia AND western propaganda doesn't call them countries. So you agree you are wrong?
2.5 Where is your map? I have asked for it repeatedly
3. Yes, large parts of US was a part of Mexico. That is why your analogy sucks.
5. So what's the rule with separatists again?
Any community/region that wants to declare independence from a sovereign state can and the governing power cannot do anything right?
That is how Russia dealt with the Chechens right?
Just let them have their independence with no violence or worries?
6. It's Ironic that Russia had a very large nice base in Ukraine. But now they don't and are worried about other foreign military influences in Ukraine. Did Russia move their nice base out of Ukraine and take the surrounding "Pro Russian" voting populace out of Ukraine? Why would they isolate Donbas and its voting population? Crimea occupied and annexed in February/March 2014. Donbas war starts in April 2014. Whoops...
7. Just a friendly reminder that you didn't address Kaliningrad. I just called NATO headquarters and they confirmed member states borders ALL of Kaliningrad. Yet not attack. Seems like Kaliningrad is safe and sovereignty is honored. Any of your sources on the ground say otherwise? I want 3D IMAX video. I need to be aware of my bias towards western propaganda.
1. Here are links of a timeline to lead up of the invasion of Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prelude_to_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
Here are links of reports of Official Russian statements. (You can find the Russian translations by sourcing below if that helps)
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/02/russian-rhetoric-ahead-of-attack-against-ukraine-deny-deflect-mislead/
https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-europe-russia-moscow-83ed7632b8a544ff733cdfbfbca56e77
https://www.reuters.com/markets/rates-bonds/kremlin-accuses-west-artificially-whipping-up-ukraine-tensions-2021-11-21/
2. I'll make it real clear this time. As alluded to my first post (and second). The Second counter offensive was not successful at all (ie virtually no regained territory). The first was. So it wasn't a question it was literally reiterating you statement of
"Show me maps where Ukraine has recaptured *and held* any significant territories since the first vaunted counterattack began."
Don't be daft (maybe impossible but please try)
But I am a nice guy I will find a truthful and accurate map starting beginning in 2020 to now of all territory regained by the Ukraine forces of the second counteroffensive if you show me the 'Asiatic' Countries in the Russian Federation for the same period!
3. Being provoked removes personal agency. Also, your analogy sucks, Mexico was never physically/culturally a part of the United States like Ukraine was to Russia/Historical SU/RE. Cuba Missile Crisis would have been better but not perfect. Russian republic was never in threat of losing territory during the millennium by NATO and they still are not now. Kaliningrad is and has always been easiest territory to take... you need a map for that or video 4k video of a Russian speaker telling you really slowly using a power point? Let me know when the invasion will happen by NATO forces. Seems like they are taking their sweet fucking time.
3.5 Crimea was annexed with minimal bloodshed to Russia. NATO/US and Ukraine didn't do shit before and afterward. You think the Crimeans can vote which country they want to join every year with rotating band of different countries occupying forces?
Oh and remember, please read AND comprehend before answering!
1. Edited post
2. You said countries. Russia AND western propaganda doesn't call them countries. So you agree you are wrong?
2.5 Where is your map? I have asked for it repeatedly
3. Yes, large parts of US was a part of Mexico. That is why your analogy sucks.
5. So what's the rule with separatists again?
Any community/region that wants to declare independence from a sovereign state can and the governing power cannot do anything right?
That is how Russia dealt with the Chechens right?
Just let them have their independence with no violence or worries?
6. It's Ironic that Russia had a very large nice base in Ukraine. But now they don't and are worried about other foreign military influences in Ukraine. Did Russia move their nice base out of Ukraine and take the surrounding "Pro Russian" voting populace out of Ukraine? Why would they isolate Donbas and its voting population? Crimea occupied and annexed in February/March 2014. Donbas war starts in April 2014. Whoops...
7. Just a friendly reminder that you didn't address Kaliningrad. I just called NATO headquarters and they confirmed member states borders ALL of Kaliningrad. Yet not attack. Seems like Kaliningrad is safe and sovereignty is honored. Any of your sources on the ground say otherwise? I want 3D IMAX video. I need to be aware of my bias towards western propaganda.
Looks like my student left the chat! If he ever comes back he and others may see this link. And it’s not western propaganda!
https://www.rt.com/russia/616413-north-korea-putin-thanks/
Edited post... I cannot keep up XD.