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Jack Sherman's avatar

Had there been a democratic process to begin with, we likely would not be in this situation. The DNC made sure that Biden was the nominee and blocked all other contenders, with no consideration for standing on a debate stage offering the public a better understanding of them and weighing who best to support. The republicans "sort of had a democratic process" by having candidates debate, but Trump chose not to stand on the stage with the other contenders. Had he been required to debated by the RNC, he may have faltered and not allowed to rise to "sainthood" by his ardent followers.

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Isaiah's avatar

Yeah, but we don't live in a democracy. At best it's a pseudo democracy. I hate the democratic party with a passion, but I'm pretty fucking scared of the fascists. I don't think there's any real way for normal people to influence our government at this point through the electoral process.

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StanleyTwoBrix's avatar

Hard to say that the Democrats are any less fascist. They are, after all, trying to ban "malinformation" - aka "the truth, but makes us look bad".

After all, it's unamerican is acknowledge American war crimes. Or Hunter's laptop, or where COVID was developed, or that Biden is senile.

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Jack Sherman's avatar

I agree. However, my perception (which may be misguided) is that the democratic party is marginally less fascist. I simply want our society to eek our way out of this mess and a Trump return doesn't seem to me to be our way out.

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StanleyTwoBrix's avatar

Less proud of it, I would say.

I would ask this:

If you believe that the GOP would never represent your interests (which is not unreasonable, for sure) why would you ever support the people who are dedicated to making sure the Democrats never represent your interests either?

This is the time to drive a stake through the heart of the corrupt leadership of the Democrats.

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Vee SouthBX Native's avatar

No, actually. The time to do that is the moment elections are over to prepare, fund and support viable primary challengers. That is what is logical.

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StanleyTwoBrix's avatar

Yes, nothing brings about change more than supporting the people who oppose it.

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Vee SouthBX Native's avatar

I missed when you were knocking doors and gathering petition signatures for a different party. Silly me.

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StanleyTwoBrix's avatar

There will never be a viable third party. I e has to fight for control of one of the two existing parties.

Or, you know, either party could try passing popular economic policies.

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Thomas Comeau's avatar

Dream on!

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Vee SouthBX Native's avatar

It beats whining. If women had been such whiners we'd still be private property.

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Thomas Comeau's avatar

Pretty much a call for revolution. Two money-corrupted parties will NEVER, IN ANY WAY, represent "the people".

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Jeffrey Hobbs's avatar

Agree pretty much, but I think it is telling about how Republicans gauged Trump's popularity by even running against him at all. Turns out they guessed wrong, so that's why they all reversed themselves and fell in line. Self-debasement is much better than the noose!

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