I’m from the Czech Republic, and during World War II, there was an assassination of Reinhard Heydrich, the Reich Protector of Bohemia and Moravia, as part of Operation Anthropoid. This was a Czechoslovak-led mission carried out by trained paratroopers sent from London. The assassination was successful, but the consequences were catastrop…
I’m from the Czech Republic, and during World War II, there was an assassination of Reinhard Heydrich, the Reich Protector of Bohemia and Moravia, as part of Operation Anthropoid. This was a Czechoslovak-led mission carried out by trained paratroopers sent from London. The assassination was successful, but the consequences were catastrophic—thousands of people were killed in retaliation. Entire villages, such as Lidice and Ležáky, were wiped off the map, and countless innocent lives were lost.
We refer to these victims as part of the Heydrichiáda (the period of brutal reprisals following Heydrich's death), but they were never glorified as martyrs. Even the soldiers who carried out the attack—Jan Kubiš, Jozef Gabčík, and their team—were not revered as martyrs of Czech freedom. They were remembered as brave heroes, yes, but there’s an important distinction in how we see these roles.
The people who died in retaliation were not celebrated as heroes or martyrs either. They were seen as victims of Nazi brutality, innocent lives unjustly taken. There was no glorification of their deaths, no cultural framework that turned their suffering into something symbolic. They were mourned, remembered, and honored, but in a grounded, human way.
The way we perceive these roles matters. In Czech history, there was no cultural reverence for martyrdom. Death was never elevated to something symbolic or holy. Heroes were respected for their courage, victims were mourned for their suffering, but martyrdom—this glorification of death—was absent.
Therefore, I have a hard time understanding the whole concept of martyrdom because it feels so distant from my line of thinking. And when I asked for clarification, I got a crybaby response instead.
Yo, short supply, how is calling you a sociopath being a crybaby?
You weren't asking for clarification, you were rationalizing Zionist perspective - that any religious reaction by slaughtered Muslims is illegitimate and must be death-cult logic. Got called on your bs, cope.
Dude, I’m a sociopath—I know it, it is what it is. I’m trying to understand the world around me, why people act the way they do. I only have my own perception of the world, and from that perspective, when I observe certain behaviors, they seem completely irrational to me.
I don’t care much about Israelis in this context either. Honestly, the ultra-Orthodox Jews are on the exact same level of bullshit as fundamentalist Islamists or evangelical Christians in the USA—same shit, different name. What Israel is doing is absolutely disgusting, but at least it’s rational.
What I can’t wrap my head around is how Palestinians behave. To me, it seems irrational, and the main reason for that is this concept of martyrdom and the profound religiosity of their society. That’s the sticking point for me.
If someone could decode this concept of martyrdom in a way that makes it rational, I might be able to understand it better. And that’s what this is all about—trying to make sense of it.
Why are you bringing up Zionism? I don’t care if there ends up being a Greater Israel or not. I believe Israel should never have been created in that location in the first place. It was essentially a way for the Allies to whitewash their incompetence in handling the Jewish situation after WWII. Israel should have existed, but as part of some Western country, not forcibly dumped into the middle of the Middle East.
But that’s irrelevant now. My opinions can’t change the past—nothing can. All I can do is try to understand the situation as it is today.
I’ve watched a few documentaries and read analyses on what’s happened since 1948, so I have at least a basic understanding of why things unfolded the way they did. I’m no expert, but taking all of this into consideration, I believe Israel had to respond hard to Gaza and punish the attackers.
I’ve seen the less filtered parts of the internet, and some of what I came across was so horrific it made me ashamed to share the same species as the perpetrators. So, Israel’s response—wanting to ensure something like this never happens again—feels logical to me. If I lived in a country that allowed such an attack to go unanswered, I wouldn’t want to stay there.
That said, how they’re going about it is disgusting. It’s less of a war and more of a punitive action. The primary goal isn’t just military victory; it’s to punish and instill fear to reduce the chances of a future incursion. It’s brutal and repulsive, but at the end of the day, it serves a rational purpose.
Dude, I’m Czech with zero connection to Israel. I’ve been an atheist my entire life, with no inclination toward religion whatsoever.
I’m ginger, so I avoid places with lots of sunlight, which means I’ve never been to Israel or anywhere close to it. The closest I’ve come is visiting a synagogue once on a school trip—if that even counts.
I have no personal ties to Israel. The only bias I might have is a slight one toward people of Jewish descent, purely because of the number of Nobel Prize laureates they’ve produced in STEM fields (the only ones that matter, in my opinion). I don’t care about literature or the peace prize.
I’m from the Czech Republic, and during World War II, there was an assassination of Reinhard Heydrich, the Reich Protector of Bohemia and Moravia, as part of Operation Anthropoid. This was a Czechoslovak-led mission carried out by trained paratroopers sent from London. The assassination was successful, but the consequences were catastrophic—thousands of people were killed in retaliation. Entire villages, such as Lidice and Ležáky, were wiped off the map, and countless innocent lives were lost.
We refer to these victims as part of the Heydrichiáda (the period of brutal reprisals following Heydrich's death), but they were never glorified as martyrs. Even the soldiers who carried out the attack—Jan Kubiš, Jozef Gabčík, and their team—were not revered as martyrs of Czech freedom. They were remembered as brave heroes, yes, but there’s an important distinction in how we see these roles.
The people who died in retaliation were not celebrated as heroes or martyrs either. They were seen as victims of Nazi brutality, innocent lives unjustly taken. There was no glorification of their deaths, no cultural framework that turned their suffering into something symbolic. They were mourned, remembered, and honored, but in a grounded, human way.
The way we perceive these roles matters. In Czech history, there was no cultural reverence for martyrdom. Death was never elevated to something symbolic or holy. Heroes were respected for their courage, victims were mourned for their suffering, but martyrdom—this glorification of death—was absent.
Therefore, I have a hard time understanding the whole concept of martyrdom because it feels so distant from my line of thinking. And when I asked for clarification, I got a crybaby response instead.
Yo, short supply, how is calling you a sociopath being a crybaby?
You weren't asking for clarification, you were rationalizing Zionist perspective - that any religious reaction by slaughtered Muslims is illegitimate and must be death-cult logic. Got called on your bs, cope.
Dude, I’m a sociopath—I know it, it is what it is. I’m trying to understand the world around me, why people act the way they do. I only have my own perception of the world, and from that perspective, when I observe certain behaviors, they seem completely irrational to me.
I don’t care much about Israelis in this context either. Honestly, the ultra-Orthodox Jews are on the exact same level of bullshit as fundamentalist Islamists or evangelical Christians in the USA—same shit, different name. What Israel is doing is absolutely disgusting, but at least it’s rational.
What I can’t wrap my head around is how Palestinians behave. To me, it seems irrational, and the main reason for that is this concept of martyrdom and the profound religiosity of their society. That’s the sticking point for me.
If someone could decode this concept of martyrdom in a way that makes it rational, I might be able to understand it better. And that’s what this is all about—trying to make sense of it.
Can't admit to rationalizing Zionism any better than that. I rest my case.
;(
Why are you bringing up Zionism? I don’t care if there ends up being a Greater Israel or not. I believe Israel should never have been created in that location in the first place. It was essentially a way for the Allies to whitewash their incompetence in handling the Jewish situation after WWII. Israel should have existed, but as part of some Western country, not forcibly dumped into the middle of the Middle East.
But that’s irrelevant now. My opinions can’t change the past—nothing can. All I can do is try to understand the situation as it is today.
"What Israel is doing is absolutely disgusting, but at least it’s rational."
;(
I’ve watched a few documentaries and read analyses on what’s happened since 1948, so I have at least a basic understanding of why things unfolded the way they did. I’m no expert, but taking all of this into consideration, I believe Israel had to respond hard to Gaza and punish the attackers.
I’ve seen the less filtered parts of the internet, and some of what I came across was so horrific it made me ashamed to share the same species as the perpetrators. So, Israel’s response—wanting to ensure something like this never happens again—feels logical to me. If I lived in a country that allowed such an attack to go unanswered, I wouldn’t want to stay there.
That said, how they’re going about it is disgusting. It’s less of a war and more of a punitive action. The primary goal isn’t just military victory; it’s to punish and instill fear to reduce the chances of a future incursion. It’s brutal and repulsive, but at the end of the day, it serves a rational purpose.
Seriously, I need no further convincing you're sitting at an 8200 terminal.
;(
Dude, I tried to search for it and it found some Retail Handheld Scanners?
Wtf are you talking about?
You are obviously an Israeli struggling
with your countries GENOCIDE.
Dude, I’m Czech with zero connection to Israel. I’ve been an atheist my entire life, with no inclination toward religion whatsoever.
I’m ginger, so I avoid places with lots of sunlight, which means I’ve never been to Israel or anywhere close to it. The closest I’ve come is visiting a synagogue once on a school trip—if that even counts.
I have no personal ties to Israel. The only bias I might have is a slight one toward people of Jewish descent, purely because of the number of Nobel Prize laureates they’ve produced in STEM fields (the only ones that matter, in my opinion). I don’t care about literature or the peace prize.
That’s it. That’s the extent of any bias I have.