Well, there is, I continue to make a distinction between Judaism and Jews and Israelis/Zionists. Many Jews were opposed to Zionism from the start, and continue to oppose it.
That being said, obscuring the difference between the two is a characteristic ruse of the Zionists, to exploit and identify with the worthy stature of others in order…
Well, there is, I continue to make a distinction between Judaism and Jews and Israelis/Zionists. Many Jews were opposed to Zionism from the start, and continue to oppose it.
That being said, obscuring the difference between the two is a characteristic ruse of the Zionists, to exploit and identify with the worthy stature of others in order to camouflage and justify their outrages against humanity. To the extent that they get away with this - and they are - they are putting Jews and Judaism at risk.
Why a seder in the streets by JVP? The celebration is meaningless to Palestinians. Why isn't JVP using their Jewish privilege to protest in Jewish spaces, like synagogues. Over 60 percent of Jews in the US support the genocide in Gaza and identity as Zionist according to the Pew Charitable Trust and the Guardian polls. Until JVP disrupts Jewish spaces as they should, I remain doubtful if their ability to create genuine change. They are the only protestors not being threatened with deportment, of course. Jews and Judaism are putting Jews and Judaism at risk honestly. The 60 plus percent that support the genocide obviously, and the cowardice of JVP and other Jews of conscience to confront the Zionist Jewish majority in synagogues and Chabad Centers, and other majority Jewish spaces. Goys can't do it. We'll get called anti-semites, and Zionists are Jewish Supremacists who have no respect for Goys anyway. It's not inaccurate at this point to say that most Jews are fundamentally Supremacists. See Gaza. See Dueteronomy 12:2. Can your Rabbi say Amalek War? Is killing babies for God and homeland really supposed to be a spiritual system? Judaism is over. The best move now is to abandon the Supremacist delusion and simply stop being Jewish. Same advice for Proud Boys, KKK members and Christian Zionist idiots, too.
It’d be disingenuous on my part to dismiss or reject offhandedly your remarks and questions, as they merit consideration and response, as pointed (blunt?) as they may be. I have maintained a position for myself of a distinction between Jews and Zionists (as I’ve written), the former representing the life of the mind, humanity, compassion, social justice, achievement, and culture, among the other attributes. The Zionists are the result of a mutant, twisted, freakish DNA, and represent the antitheses of all those human, and humane, qualities.
I’ve arrived at my views through Jewish friends and acquaintances I have known in my life (I’m not Jewish myself, if that’s at all pertinent), as well as becoming familiar with, or more familiar with, the likes of Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein (who, by the way, gave me some insight into Jewish supremacy), Ilan Pappe (ditto on supremacy), Avi Shlaim, Miko Peled, Gideon Levy and other Jews since Oct. 7th. Of course their antitheses are Benjamin Netanyahu, Bezalel Smotrich, Yoav Gallant, Benny Gantz, Ron Dermer, Israel Katz, Elliot Brandt, Miriam Adelson, and long list of other rogues as well as their cadre of non-Jewish Zionist sympathizers, accomplices, and enablers such as Elise Stefanik, Mike Huckabee, Mike Johnson, Mitch McConnell, and of course IQ47.
All that being said, and beyond Netanyahu’s off-the-wall ranting about smiting the Amaleks (of 3000 years ago) in Oct. of 2023, I was floored to come across statements from rabbis(!) justifying, saying it was moral to kill men, women, and children in the “defense of Israel”, this from the supposed holy ranks of Judaism, purportedly learned in the moral teachings of the Talmud and Torah (https://theconversation.com/in-israel-calls-for-genocide-have-migrated-from-the-margins-to-the-mainstream-250010).
That then pushed me to ask two related, brewing questions I had, what does it mean to be Jewish, what does it mean to be Jewish in light of the genocide in Gaza? To begin to get answers, I literally typed those words in a DuckDuckGo search (I don’t care to be caught up in Google vacuuming up my personal data anymore than it already has) and thus far haven’t come up with many informative hits (I’ll have to refine my searches) but I did across a very worthwhile review of Peter Beinhart’s new book, “Being Jewish After the Destruction of Gaza: A Reckoning” (https://religiondispatches.org/peter-beinarts-being-jewish-after-the-destruction-of-gaza-expertly-dismantles-pro-israel-propaganda-but-does-it-adequately-reckon-with-the-genocide/). It’s a bit long, but I urge you to read it in its entirety, as it winds up with quite a punchline in the closing paragraphs, in my estimation.
“Is killing babies for God and homeland really supposed to be a spiritual system? Judaism is over. The best move now is to abandon the Supremacist delusion and simply stop being Jewish.”
That’s pretty tough, especially those last four words. Is the Supremacist delusion as attached to Judaism as a Siamese twin? Is it possible to separate them? I think at least a partial answer is to be found in the closing of the Beinhart review. I’d be interested in what you think.
As my Jewish mother in law used to say, "The Zionists will complete what the Nazis started." Beinart's courageous surely. As are other JVPs opposed to genocide. I think they need to take these thoughts directly to Jewish in- spaces if they want to transform the Jewish majority worldwide that overwhelming support, financially and otherwise the Zionazis. Moderates always platform extremists in any political movement. Obs killing babies for God is not spiritual. Was it when Moses ordered it. No more so. Judaism is primarily a political movement of separatist supremacism today. Hence, over, unless Beinart and the like can actually change somebody like Zuckerberg's or Janet Yellen's or Kamila Harris's husband's mind about the meaning of the Covenant with Abraham.
Jews need to learn humility and abandon their greed. Everyone else shared homelands. When 4 or 5 of the world's richest 10 dudes are consistently Jewish how unsafe is the world for them actually? How much does supremacist wealth accumulation by all Abrahamic Capitalist greed impact the species?
Jews need to recognize that the story isn't always about them. From my perspective Beinart is also indulgent. The Gaza genocide ain't about Jews actually.
Well, there is, I continue to make a distinction between Judaism and Jews and Israelis/Zionists. Many Jews were opposed to Zionism from the start, and continue to oppose it.
That being said, obscuring the difference between the two is a characteristic ruse of the Zionists, to exploit and identify with the worthy stature of others in order to camouflage and justify their outrages against humanity. To the extent that they get away with this - and they are - they are putting Jews and Judaism at risk.
Why a seder in the streets by JVP? The celebration is meaningless to Palestinians. Why isn't JVP using their Jewish privilege to protest in Jewish spaces, like synagogues. Over 60 percent of Jews in the US support the genocide in Gaza and identity as Zionist according to the Pew Charitable Trust and the Guardian polls. Until JVP disrupts Jewish spaces as they should, I remain doubtful if their ability to create genuine change. They are the only protestors not being threatened with deportment, of course. Jews and Judaism are putting Jews and Judaism at risk honestly. The 60 plus percent that support the genocide obviously, and the cowardice of JVP and other Jews of conscience to confront the Zionist Jewish majority in synagogues and Chabad Centers, and other majority Jewish spaces. Goys can't do it. We'll get called anti-semites, and Zionists are Jewish Supremacists who have no respect for Goys anyway. It's not inaccurate at this point to say that most Jews are fundamentally Supremacists. See Gaza. See Dueteronomy 12:2. Can your Rabbi say Amalek War? Is killing babies for God and homeland really supposed to be a spiritual system? Judaism is over. The best move now is to abandon the Supremacist delusion and simply stop being Jewish. Same advice for Proud Boys, KKK members and Christian Zionist idiots, too.
It’d be disingenuous on my part to dismiss or reject offhandedly your remarks and questions, as they merit consideration and response, as pointed (blunt?) as they may be. I have maintained a position for myself of a distinction between Jews and Zionists (as I’ve written), the former representing the life of the mind, humanity, compassion, social justice, achievement, and culture, among the other attributes. The Zionists are the result of a mutant, twisted, freakish DNA, and represent the antitheses of all those human, and humane, qualities.
I’ve arrived at my views through Jewish friends and acquaintances I have known in my life (I’m not Jewish myself, if that’s at all pertinent), as well as becoming familiar with, or more familiar with, the likes of Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein (who, by the way, gave me some insight into Jewish supremacy), Ilan Pappe (ditto on supremacy), Avi Shlaim, Miko Peled, Gideon Levy and other Jews since Oct. 7th. Of course their antitheses are Benjamin Netanyahu, Bezalel Smotrich, Yoav Gallant, Benny Gantz, Ron Dermer, Israel Katz, Elliot Brandt, Miriam Adelson, and long list of other rogues as well as their cadre of non-Jewish Zionist sympathizers, accomplices, and enablers such as Elise Stefanik, Mike Huckabee, Mike Johnson, Mitch McConnell, and of course IQ47.
All that being said, and beyond Netanyahu’s off-the-wall ranting about smiting the Amaleks (of 3000 years ago) in Oct. of 2023, I was floored to come across statements from rabbis(!) justifying, saying it was moral to kill men, women, and children in the “defense of Israel”, this from the supposed holy ranks of Judaism, purportedly learned in the moral teachings of the Talmud and Torah (https://theconversation.com/in-israel-calls-for-genocide-have-migrated-from-the-margins-to-the-mainstream-250010).
That then pushed me to ask two related, brewing questions I had, what does it mean to be Jewish, what does it mean to be Jewish in light of the genocide in Gaza? To begin to get answers, I literally typed those words in a DuckDuckGo search (I don’t care to be caught up in Google vacuuming up my personal data anymore than it already has) and thus far haven’t come up with many informative hits (I’ll have to refine my searches) but I did across a very worthwhile review of Peter Beinhart’s new book, “Being Jewish After the Destruction of Gaza: A Reckoning” (https://religiondispatches.org/peter-beinarts-being-jewish-after-the-destruction-of-gaza-expertly-dismantles-pro-israel-propaganda-but-does-it-adequately-reckon-with-the-genocide/). It’s a bit long, but I urge you to read it in its entirety, as it winds up with quite a punchline in the closing paragraphs, in my estimation.
“Is killing babies for God and homeland really supposed to be a spiritual system? Judaism is over. The best move now is to abandon the Supremacist delusion and simply stop being Jewish.”
That’s pretty tough, especially those last four words. Is the Supremacist delusion as attached to Judaism as a Siamese twin? Is it possible to separate them? I think at least a partial answer is to be found in the closing of the Beinhart review. I’d be interested in what you think.
As my Jewish mother in law used to say, "The Zionists will complete what the Nazis started." Beinart's courageous surely. As are other JVPs opposed to genocide. I think they need to take these thoughts directly to Jewish in- spaces if they want to transform the Jewish majority worldwide that overwhelming support, financially and otherwise the Zionazis. Moderates always platform extremists in any political movement. Obs killing babies for God is not spiritual. Was it when Moses ordered it. No more so. Judaism is primarily a political movement of separatist supremacism today. Hence, over, unless Beinart and the like can actually change somebody like Zuckerberg's or Janet Yellen's or Kamila Harris's husband's mind about the meaning of the Covenant with Abraham.
Jews need to learn humility and abandon their greed. Everyone else shared homelands. When 4 or 5 of the world's richest 10 dudes are consistently Jewish how unsafe is the world for them actually? How much does supremacist wealth accumulation by all Abrahamic Capitalist greed impact the species?
Jews need to recognize that the story isn't always about them. From my perspective Beinart is also indulgent. The Gaza genocide ain't about Jews actually.