Witkoff and Trump don't care about lives. They are the type of people who only care about money and image. They're empty vessels and the suffering of Palestinians is nothing to them. This is why Witkoff lied and didn't follow through on his promises related to the release of Alexander.
Guaranteed that Netanyahu is making sure that he can never be held accountable for murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent children, women and men. He and his sponsors are as evil as the world has ever seen.
No doubt Bibi and his mob would welcome a 60 day intermission to engage in needed repairs, rotate troops, stock up on more weapons and update strategies and tactics.
If they were to actually pause killing people during those sixty days I'm a monkey's uncle.
No need to worry, you're far along the evolutionary path, it's those banana-heads and knuckle-draggers frolicking in the primordial swamp and taking over the circus we have to worry about.
“U.S. officials deliberately crafted ambiguous language around the issue of ending the war to make the deal acceptable to both sides,” pointing out that the proposal “does not include a demand for Israel to end the war or withdraw from Gaza.”
Of course it doesn't include a demand for Israel to end the war! The fundamental flaw in the Trump/Witkoff terms for an agreement is that they are funding the war for Israel.
In what world is it okay to have the funders of a war serve as the mediators? It's like a football game where the umpires are paid by one of the teams. Why no mainstream media even asks such questions of Trump and Witkoff is beyond belief.
Hamas should demand the Dr from Al-Shifa who refused to leave his patients and is being tortured in an Israeli prison to be one of the Palestinians released. I’m sorry I don’t remember his name or even if he was working in Al-Shifa. I will never forget the photo of him walking alone, his back to us, among the rubble.
But I don’t trust BN or DT to uphold any ceasefire. We need an end to the war, Israeli forces totally and permanently withdrawn, peacekeeping forces in Gaza, and experts in humanitarian aid and in rebuilding post-wars stationed in Gaza. UNRWA, ANERA, MECA, AFSC, Save the Children, Oxfam, UNICEF, those organizations have been working in Gaza a long time.
My immediate reaction to this is 'so what'. It all seems so utterly pointless. It's window dressing and posturing to create the illusion that something positive is being done.
Just like faking "food aid" — by sending a gang of Israel's psychopathic killers, to deliver hardly any food, to hardly any people, and to perpetrate a massacre while they're there — they keep faking "ceasefire proposals" that don't end the genocide.
Just like in Ukraine, the US, far from being a neutral party in the negotiations, is a cobelligerent in Israel's genocide and clearly, provably, cannot be trusted by Hamas.
Complete stoppage of the genocide with back up by the USA, and other regional powers support of a ceasefire maintenance is a must. Stop this horrorific show of the persecution via: bombs, bullets, incineration phosphorous bombs, starvation, incarceration, surveillance ...Netanyahu needs to be behind bars as does the entire IDF. They all be sadistic sociopaths.
Am I suffering from "ceasefire proposal fatigue," or am I right in asking just what is all the to-do about? More of Bibi's biliousness? "Temporary ceasefires" of one length or another, merely to gather up the dead (and pieces thereof) before resumption of adding to the pile? Public handover ceremonies, yes or no, and so on...
Hamas is willing to deal, on the up-and-up. Israel never interested in that. The US tries to camouflage its pointless but optically useful role of broker between one position located somewhere on the positive side of zero on the number line, and the other at negative infinity.
This deal is a temporary ceasefire to get the hostages back before they annihilate the Palestinians. Very depressing, Trump and Witkof are committed to killing as many people as possible and deporting the rest to ‘concentration camps’ as they are no doubt getting anxious to build on the land that is Gaza and make even more money.
“We do not believe Hamas will release the last hostage, and therefore we will continue fighting until Hamas is destroyed, and we will not leave the Gaza Strip until all the hostages are in our hands."
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Clearly Israel intends to claim that one of the prisoners has not been returned (or more likely, claim that one of the bodies is not whom it is purported to be). In either case, Israel has never failed to lie, when a lie was advantageous... or convenient... or at all possible to utter.
As for the US: The Trump admin has already turned into the weaseling Biden admin. It came in bloviating about how proudly-genocidal it is, and now it's parsing words, and playing implication-games. So. Fucking. WEAK.
If Trump were, indeed, committed to a permanent, peaceful resolution, he would demand it. And he would get it. All he has to do is stop providing the weaponry and the diplomatic support. This "deal" is a good one for Israel, a very bad one for the Palestinians of Gaza. There's no way Israel will allow UN-affiliated humanitarian organizations unhindered access to Gaza during the ceasefire; they'll come up with one bogus reason after another to prevent it and we'll do nothing about it. So the Palestinian people of Gaza will continue to suffer malnutrition, disease, denial of medical care, exposure and trauma while the IDF gets up to 60 days of R & R. Or less than 60 days. Whatever Israel decides, we'll go along. And this administration has demonstrated, in the negotiations for the release of Eden Alexander, that their word means nothing. We remain nothing but handmaidens to the Israel lobby and this proposal doesn't bode well at all.
Consideration should be given to a mutually agreed upon (by US/Hamas et al) UN representative, preferably from Russia or China, to integrate with ultimate authority into the oversight process. Doubt if Israel would agree, but this proposal is simply to relieve the pressure on Netanyahu regarding the hostages - polls have indicated that once the hostages are returned, the bombings, total starvation policies (no water, food), invasions will return, with the goal of total extermination of the Palestinians being agreed upon by the majority of Israeli's.
Did Witkof not lose credibility when after Hamas released their hostages, none of the reciprocal agreements by US/IS were fulfilled. Fool me once.... Again, reminiscent of the US/IS agreements in Lebanon in 1982 that led to the Sabra/Shatila massacres - every person in the refugee camps murdered by affiliated Phalangists with total approval by Sharon and Begum.
Witkoff and Trump don't care about lives. They are the type of people who only care about money and image. They're empty vessels and the suffering of Palestinians is nothing to them. This is why Witkoff lied and didn't follow through on his promises related to the release of Alexander.
Guaranteed that Netanyahu is making sure that he can never be held accountable for murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent children, women and men. He and his sponsors are as evil as the world has ever seen.
"Witkoff and Trump don't care about lives. They are the type of people..."
Well, ya really can't call them "people"...
No doubt Bibi and his mob would welcome a 60 day intermission to engage in needed repairs, rotate troops, stock up on more weapons and update strategies and tactics.
If they were to actually pause killing people during those sixty days I'm a monkey's uncle.
No need to worry, you're far along the evolutionary path, it's those banana-heads and knuckle-draggers frolicking in the primordial swamp and taking over the circus we have to worry about.
I've stopped worrying. It's beyond the realm of worry.
I wish I could
“U.S. officials deliberately crafted ambiguous language around the issue of ending the war to make the deal acceptable to both sides,” pointing out that the proposal “does not include a demand for Israel to end the war or withdraw from Gaza.”
Of course it doesn't include a demand for Israel to end the war! The fundamental flaw in the Trump/Witkoff terms for an agreement is that they are funding the war for Israel.
In what world is it okay to have the funders of a war serve as the mediators? It's like a football game where the umpires are paid by one of the teams. Why no mainstream media even asks such questions of Trump and Witkoff is beyond belief.
Hamas should demand the Dr from Al-Shifa who refused to leave his patients and is being tortured in an Israeli prison to be one of the Palestinians released. I’m sorry I don’t remember his name or even if he was working in Al-Shifa. I will never forget the photo of him walking alone, his back to us, among the rubble.
But I don’t trust BN or DT to uphold any ceasefire. We need an end to the war, Israeli forces totally and permanently withdrawn, peacekeeping forces in Gaza, and experts in humanitarian aid and in rebuilding post-wars stationed in Gaza. UNRWA, ANERA, MECA, AFSC, Save the Children, Oxfam, UNICEF, those organizations have been working in Gaza a long time.
❤️ Yes to all of that.
It's a crime, that international peace-keeping forces have never been deployed to block Israel's serial slaughter of innocents.
My immediate reaction to this is 'so what'. It all seems so utterly pointless. It's window dressing and posturing to create the illusion that something positive is being done.
Yes. It's sadistic.
Just like faking "food aid" — by sending a gang of Israel's psychopathic killers, to deliver hardly any food, to hardly any people, and to perpetrate a massacre while they're there — they keep faking "ceasefire proposals" that don't end the genocide.
It's been going on for nearly a century. I've written extensively about Israel/Palestine on my own Substack, as a BDS campaigner: https://shadowlightblog.substack.com/p/spotlight-on-israel-introduction
Just like in Ukraine, the US, far from being a neutral party in the negotiations, is a cobelligerent in Israel's genocide and clearly, provably, cannot be trusted by Hamas.
Complete stoppage of the genocide with back up by the USA, and other regional powers support of a ceasefire maintenance is a must. Stop this horrorific show of the persecution via: bombs, bullets, incineration phosphorous bombs, starvation, incarceration, surveillance ...Netanyahu needs to be behind bars as does the entire IDF. They all be sadistic sociopaths.
Am I suffering from "ceasefire proposal fatigue," or am I right in asking just what is all the to-do about? More of Bibi's biliousness? "Temporary ceasefires" of one length or another, merely to gather up the dead (and pieces thereof) before resumption of adding to the pile? Public handover ceremonies, yes or no, and so on...
Hamas is willing to deal, on the up-and-up. Israel never interested in that. The US tries to camouflage its pointless but optically useful role of broker between one position located somewhere on the positive side of zero on the number line, and the other at negative infinity.
As they say, do the math.
"a temporary ceasefire and a long-term, peaceful resolution of that conflict," ?????? Huh what
"?????? Huh what"
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Exactly the clarity they intended.
❤️ for most concise description of the proposal.
You have not been able wipe out Hamas since its inception. wishful thing. They are not terrorjist, they are resistance group.
This deal is a temporary ceasefire to get the hostages back before they annihilate the Palestinians. Very depressing, Trump and Witkof are committed to killing as many people as possible and deporting the rest to ‘concentration camps’ as they are no doubt getting anxious to build on the land that is Gaza and make even more money.
“We do not believe Hamas will release the last hostage, and therefore we will continue fighting until Hamas is destroyed, and we will not leave the Gaza Strip until all the hostages are in our hands."
•••
Clearly Israel intends to claim that one of the prisoners has not been returned (or more likely, claim that one of the bodies is not whom it is purported to be). In either case, Israel has never failed to lie, when a lie was advantageous... or convenient... or at all possible to utter.
As for the US: The Trump admin has already turned into the weaseling Biden admin. It came in bloviating about how proudly-genocidal it is, and now it's parsing words, and playing implication-games. So. Fucking. WEAK.
If Trump were, indeed, committed to a permanent, peaceful resolution, he would demand it. And he would get it. All he has to do is stop providing the weaponry and the diplomatic support. This "deal" is a good one for Israel, a very bad one for the Palestinians of Gaza. There's no way Israel will allow UN-affiliated humanitarian organizations unhindered access to Gaza during the ceasefire; they'll come up with one bogus reason after another to prevent it and we'll do nothing about it. So the Palestinian people of Gaza will continue to suffer malnutrition, disease, denial of medical care, exposure and trauma while the IDF gets up to 60 days of R & R. Or less than 60 days. Whatever Israel decides, we'll go along. And this administration has demonstrated, in the negotiations for the release of Eden Alexander, that their word means nothing. We remain nothing but handmaidens to the Israel lobby and this proposal doesn't bode well at all.
Exactly!
Hamas should reject ANY proposal from genocidal US and genocidal "Israel". It's like trying to reason with Hitler: it can't be done.
If you trust anything that comes out of the mouth of Bibi, Witkoff, or Trump, then you are dumber than a box of rocks.
Who's talking about trust? Its about exposure..
Consideration should be given to a mutually agreed upon (by US/Hamas et al) UN representative, preferably from Russia or China, to integrate with ultimate authority into the oversight process. Doubt if Israel would agree, but this proposal is simply to relieve the pressure on Netanyahu regarding the hostages - polls have indicated that once the hostages are returned, the bombings, total starvation policies (no water, food), invasions will return, with the goal of total extermination of the Palestinians being agreed upon by the majority of Israeli's.
Did Witkof not lose credibility when after Hamas released their hostages, none of the reciprocal agreements by US/IS were fulfilled. Fool me once.... Again, reminiscent of the US/IS agreements in Lebanon in 1982 that led to the Sabra/Shatila massacres - every person in the refugee camps murdered by affiliated Phalangists with total approval by Sharon and Begum.
How about representatives from Ireland and South Africa. Maybe by having these two nations would level the playing field.
LMAO wizzrail would walk out at even a suspicion of something like this