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Diana Merenda's avatar

The inhumanity by these Zionist terrorists committing genocide with the support of America in general and my tax dollars in particular is utterly horrendous horrific heinous… sacrilegious to true Judaism. NOT IN MY NAME!

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

Unfortunately, the great majority of Jews world wide support the genocide. "True Jews", the ones who are not sacrilegious Supremacists, are too small in number to save the religion from becoming the KKK, or stopping the Jewish Genocide of Palestinians. There is no significant ideological difference between Torah Judaism as written and Zionism anyway.

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Nancy's avatar

I don’t know what else to do to stop this. Have demonstrated in the streets, sent money to aid organizations and hospital and to the few politicians who have voted to stop the funding. Have written letters and email to the WH (Biden), the VP Harris, written letters endless comments, some of which were not published by the NYT, which along with most other msm, is complicit. My thoughts: demonstrate in front of DNC headquarters; demonstrate in front of the NYT. Most Democratic members of Congress, together with all of their Republican counterparts, regularly vote to continue the funding. This includes, of course, Cory Booker, who apparently is launching his second bid for the presidency. VP candidate Tim Waltz refused to answer a recent question by Chris Hayes in MSNBC as to whether, looking back, he and Harris should have taken a different position on Gaza. He was asked twice and twice gave a non answer. All of us who oppose this need to let them know loud and clear (and over and over) that we will not vote for supporters of genocide. It’s on them — not us.

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Ed Nuhfer's avatar

I totally empathize with your feelings of nowhere to go to vote for a party of candidates whose main ambition is good governance—taking care of the nation and its people. I'm ready to resign from the Democratic Party because I do not want formal affiliation with organized ruling-class Nazi genocidists pretending to value democracy. With only two parties trying to out-compete each other for AIPAC $$$ and the favors of a pseudo-Zionist monster who hates our Constitution, there are no lesser evils now. One party exists that seems less threatening, but maybe that is because of the image that party works to project.

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

Resign already. Dems are genocidal capitalist planet mauling asswipes, don't you see.

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Ed Nuhfer's avatar

Just like most Jews are not rabid cheerleaders of genocide, most rank and file Democrats don't support "genocidal capitalist planet mauling." In both cases, the operatives that control both do, and they do so against the will of those they claim to represent.

When there is currently nothing to leave to that merits support, we are left with the empty feeling Nancy described. One solution would be to organize a kind of "strike" in which we abandon support for our party operatives' anointed ones wherever possible and support selected Independent candidates that do represent the people. I've seen a few Independent candidates popping up very recently. Would be great if support for them coalesced into a movement. That could spring from the "Hands Off!" protests. I'm finding participating in the protests more satisfying than supporting my Party. Maybe others are too.

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Raoul Christensen's avatar

Zionists of both stripes are rabid supporters of genocide and so called 'rank and file' democrats turn a blind eye to their party's complicity and whine about the price of eggs.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

It's the Uniparty. The Democrats aren't an opposition party. They just play one on TV, and getting worse at it by the day.

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Martin Krisko's avatar

I'm not going to pretend to be emotional here, so I’ll just give you a straight answer.

If you're asking what else to do, the cold political reality is this: you need to mobilize about 3.5% of the population with Gaza as a top priority. That’s the threshold where movements start to shift policy, based on political science research.

Yes, you'll see polls saying 60% of Americans don't support Israel’s actions or that 80% want a ceasefire. Those numbers are encouraging, but they're not what drives political change. It’s not just how many people care—it’s how much they care, and whether they’re willing to act on it.

Right now, Gaza might be the #1 or #2 international issue for some people, but for most, it’s not even close. There are many international affairs that impact Americans more directly—like immigration, trade with China, or global energy prices—and those take precedence in their minds. Gaza is seen as tragic, but distant. And let’s be blunt—Americans are probably the most sheltered population on the planet. Most only have to deal with their own dysfunctional politics; the rest of the world has to deal with their own retards plus the consequences of America's “leadership.”

So your two realistic options are:

1. Persuade average people to move Gaza to the top of their priority list—even if it doesn't affect them directly.

2. Improve their quality of life enough that they have the bandwidth to care about distant international issues at all.

That’s where real pressure comes from—not just letters or demonstrations, but priority reshuffling on a national scale.

And with the fallout from the upcoming big-brain tariff politics, I expect most people—both in the U.S. and globally—will soon be too busy handling their own shit to keep Gaza anywhere near the top of the list.

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Nancy's avatar

Agree with most of what you wrote. The question with respect to making Gaza a priority with 3 + % is how you do that. That’s where I disagree that demonstrations aren’t helpful. I think we need to let Democratic politicians and the DNC know that the party won’t win the presidency without changing its position on Palestine. And I truly believe that it won’t. (A lot of people think it was enough to affect the outcome in the 2024 election). And now parts of the mainstream media, like MSNBC, are raising the question about the impact on future elections. The opposition needs to be visible to catch on and to get the necessary attention and support.

Cory Booker got called out on Gaza at a town hall in Tucson. This got press coverage.

With respect to your number 2, yes, that needs to happen and there are lots of people working on it. The problem is, it won’t happen soon enough to save the people in Gaza.

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Martin Krisko's avatar

Honestly, I don’t think anything significant will shift within the next four years. If the U.S. experiences serious supply chain disruptions or domestic economic pressure, the Palestinian issue will be deprioritized instantly. It’ll survive as a niche cause—activists will still push, some reporters will still cover it, and there’ll be noise on campuses—but it won’t dominate public discourse.

The only viable strategy I see is strategic piggybacking.

If the pro-Palestine movement aligns itself with causes people already care about—like personal freedoms, free speech, or government overreach—then it stands a chance of staying relevant as a side effect of those broader concerns.

But as a standalone issue? Once inflation, housing, tariffs, factory shutdowns, or job loss hit harder, Palestine will become a background issue for most. People will relegate it to moral afterthoughts unless it can be logically linked to something that directly impacts them.

And honestly, that’s probably where the “battle” will happen. The deciding factor will be the cohesiveness of the glue—or the strength of the paperclip.

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Dr. Elise Young's avatar

Agreed!

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

Settler occupy all synagogues until Jews learn to share. That'll stop this shit.

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Eugenie Myers's avatar

This story is absolutely heart breaking. How can the Israelis treat people with such total disregard for their humanity? It is sickening. I fear the human race is not going to make it as long as people can treat each other this way. We all suffer the consequences of man's inhumanity to man. The current administration is complicit in this travesty. No more arms for Israel.

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

It's not just Israelis! Wake up! The US govt and the US Jewish and Christian idiots support it financially as well. Abrahamism is the main ideological source of the Jewish slaughtering of children, and the Zionazi US government is a prime motivator of the same.

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Martin Krisko's avatar

Wait—this is what humanity is. Our entire history is written in the blood of the powerless. Massacres, conquests, genocides—pick any century, any continent, and it's the same pattern. This isn’t a glitch. It’s the blueprint.

We are just animals—clever, social, territorial animals. Look at army ants. They swarm, conquer, and devour. We named them army ants because their behavior mirrors our own. So maybe we should start calling ourselves army hominids. The comparison is uncomfortably accurate.

A few people sitting around a table, writing noble-sounding laws, and declaring them “humanitarian” doesn’t erase the primal patterns driving our behavior. It just adds a layer of hypocrisy.

Even if we removed scarcity, we’d probably still kill each other over flags, gods, and ideologies. Because violence isn’t some aberration—it’s our historical default. That’s what army hominids do.

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Eugenie Myers's avatar

Yet I have always been hopeful that humans would continue to evolve and find a way to share resources, overcome selfishness, and work for the good of all. We have made great progress in that regard over our history and have become more humane than we were when we first became Homo sapiens, however lately it seems we are now moving in the wrong direction. Is there hope for us?

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Martin Krisko's avatar

If you take “evolution” to mean post-WW2 cooperation, I think we’re overestimating how much we’ve really improved. Honestly, if both sides didn’t have nukes, there probably would’ve been a full-blown WW3 by the late 1960s—and it would’ve been even more fucked up than what we have now.

What we see now is great, and believe me, I’d love nothing more than to live in peace and not give a shit about any of this. But that relative peace is mostly thanks to our ability to reduce scarcity—not eliminate it. The moment scarcity returns in a serious way, we’ll go right back to bashing each other’s heads in.

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ROSANNE SLOANE's avatar

Inhuman, evil genocide. While the world watched. America has blood on it's hands by fueling Israel's need to kill a man holding new life?? The world will have blood on it's hands if this is not stopped. This journalist, as others, is risking her life telling the world the true, standing up for justice.

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Safir Ahmed's avatar

Note to Rasha Abou Jalal: We owe our gratitude to you for showing us the truth in all its inhumane brutality, and for continuing your work amidst the carnage even at the risk of your own life. God bless you.

Our nation and Israel are complicit in the evil acts and nothing we as citizens can do seems to work. So we pray that justice will be done sooner or later, and the evil-doers will perish -- and peace will return.

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Amrita B's avatar

How painful -- both the report and the photos. Thank you for continuing to let us know of these atrocities, which many of us are trying to end.

It sometimes seems futile, but I trust that the efforts will someday reach the stage where the weight of one more snowflake finally causes the branch to fall. https://elisabethonearth.com/the-weight-of-a-snowflake

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Dr. Elise Young's avatar

Beautifully put.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

I think of it more like the "hundredth monkey" effect, but the idea is the same. There is a critical mass that must be reached of humanity that cares. Our task is to help bring it together.

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Martha's avatar

It breaks my heart to know of the suffering of the people of Palestine and to know that the world is allowing this to happen. The Zionist are horrible beings with no soul or remorse of the crimes the are committing aided by USA

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

Over 60 percent of world Jewry identified as Zionist. There is no significant difference between Torah Judaism as written and Zionist ideal anyway. The Covenant with Abraham is Jewish for millenia before the Zionist adopt it. Same for Amalek War. Study the Torah. Judaism is inherently genocidal and Supremacist. Do truth. The Zionist Jew is Jew Zionist, mostly.

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Dr. Elise Young's avatar

Unbearable. Tragic. This reporting is indispensable. Spread the word. Break the silence. We

keep trying because human beings cannot tolerate this cruelty. War must end.

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Martin Krisko's avatar

What silence? Come on—it’s been nearly 20 months. People know. They’ve seen it. They just don’t give a fuck.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

I am not disputing, I'm just unsure what you want your remarks to accomplish. Please let us konw what is the point of your statements.

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Martin Krisko's avatar

My point is clarity. I don’t lie to myself or others. If I ever do, call me out—I’ll fix it.

But let’s stop pretending people don’t know. They know. They’ve seen the images, read the headlines. They just don’t give a fuck. Average Joes care more that the Lakers got eliminated, and Jennies care more about who got booted off Love Island. That’s the actual priority hierarchy, whether we like it or not.

Saying otherwise is delusional.

Now, if this is a space to communicate, to confront reality, and maybe learn something—great. I’m here for that. But if it’s just a grief echo chamber to feel communal sorrow without challenging anything real, I’ll leave you to it.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

It seems to me, that saying they know is something, at least many of us already could have said decades ago, much less months ago. And, yet, new people are waking up. I don't know when that is going to happen for them, or when it happened for you. So, I guess I still don't see your point. Maybe, you can suggest the next steps for once we all accept that not a single other person is going to come face to face with the truth that their prior convictions had allowed them to turn away from. I don't think we can claim to be there yet. But, for the sake of argument, let's assume we are there, what are the necessary next steps you are putting forward?

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Martin Krisko's avatar

You ask what the next steps are. Fair question. Here's the reality:

Step one: stop the emotional performance.

Posting outrage, grief, or “Holocaust 2.0” comparisons might make people feel better, but it doesn’t educate, persuade, or change anything. It’s just emotional venting dressed up as activism—like yelling into a void and pretending it’s progress.

Most people already know what’s happening. The “silence” is deliberate. Information is one Google search away. What you’re dealing with isn’t ignorance—it’s apathy, shaped by everyday survival. People prioritize rent, heating, food, and their kids over far-off suffering. That doesn’t make them evil—it makes them human.

And telling them they’re bad people for not reacting the “right” way isn’t going to help. It just alienates them further.

You say “shared humanity,” but let’s be honest—most people aren’t wired that way. These abstract ideals collapse under scrutiny. They sound good, but don’t connect to lived experience. That’s why emotionally charged posts don’t scale—they create bubbles, not momentum.

So if you want more people to care, make the case. Use logic. Show how these issues matter in terms that connect with their priorities. Rage-posting and moral appeals don’t move the needle. They just echo inside like-minded circles and burn out.

This isn’t about being cold—it’s about being effective.

You asked me, and I gave the answer. But I’m no rights activist or even a humanitarian, so take it more like a cold analysis.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

I would think that you are right to suggest that approach for those people who are only moved by logic, and have no emotional attachment to principles, or other humans, but come on, when was the last time you found yourself surrounded by those types of people? And, unfortunately, some like that are incapable of caring.

There are many who are moved by emotional appeals, and I do not think there is any call to prioritize one method, and group of people, over the other. We need any and all, for whatever reason, to join in trying to end this slaughter.

Now you may assess that this particular group is not the right one for those types you wish to address, and you might be right. Let us know which are the groups with those logical types that we should be talking with. And what is it, we are supposed to ask those folks to do with the information we pass on in that logical fashion? Because if we don't have any suggestions for them to do anything, then what benefit would come from talking with them in that way? Just curious where/what you want this to lead to.

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Martin Krisko's avatar

I’m not trying to achieve anything for Palestine. I’ve said before—it’s not even in my top 50 concerns.

I follow what's happening out of curiosity and informational value, not emotional investment. For me, it’s just data—part of a broader pattern of global dysfunction. Gaza is one of several ongoing conflicts. Two people die every second globally, and multiple genocides and ethnic cleansings are unfolding right now.

The people I surround myself with—engineers, CTOs, high-level managers—don’t talk about it. Not because they’re heartless, but because it has zero impact on our lives or work.

There are 20+ international issues with more direct implications for the systems I care about. That’s where my attention goes.

No moral angle. Just priorities.

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Kayode Bello's avatar

💔💔💔

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catfish rushdie's avatar

My mind rebels. I am paying the salaries of murderers, paying for their weapons, paying for their health care, paying for their housing, paying for their education and training, and paying to shield them from justice. And I am paying for the dissemination of their propaganda.

This genocide, now ongoing before the eyes of the human race, is the defining event of the twenty-first century. The political class of Washington and the United States, the ones who clapped for Netanyahu, giving him fifty-eight standing ovations, who continue to take money from Zionist donors, who parrot their talking points and attempt to shield them from even the mildest criticism, are now and forever on the wrong side of history.

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Fran Carbonaro's avatar

Yes, it is truly maddening. This Friday, I will stand on the corner of my town in N CA with a sign that says F*CK ISRAEL. Right across the street from the women who stand with their Israeli and American flags... better than a silent scream into the void.

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catfish rushdie's avatar

Bless your heart, Fran.

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

Thank you for your service!

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

Along with the majority of Jews, who support this Supremacism.

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Jack Lomax's avatar

I am old and have ben in many wars. Many of my friends and relations were killed in the German 'Blitz' attacks in UK in the 1940s and I escaped with slight wounds. Iwas in Iraq and in Bagdad as a peace activist during the Gulf wars and witnessed many bodies pulled from destroyed shelters. But this sounds even more horrific. If we do not manage to construct a new international system we will finally destroy civilisation and indeed the world in which it thrives

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Kathy Bovello's avatar

I am so sick and tired of Israel getting away with such atrocities by continually making excuses for their actions: Hamas hides among Palestinians or in hospitals are favorites (translates into Palestinians hide Hamas among themselves). Nonsense. Israel has always made sure Hamas was the only power around Palestinians - so Israel would have a legitimate enemy. God forbid Palestinians have their own elected government. If Israel would agree to that, Palestinians would have a fighting chance at developing a real government that could make life better for all Palestinians. Israel doesn't want that. It wants to rule the whole of Israel and Palestine.

Put the shoe on the other foot Israel. What would you be if limited to what you allow Palestinians?

The only positive for Israel would be that it would have a chance to be human and resilient like the Palestinians are. As it is, the Israeli - government at least - is a bully, a braggart, a terrorist - unworthy of the regard they try to buy from the rest of the world via AIPAC. What would Israelis terrorized by the holocaust think of their descendants? I think they would be ashamed of them - acting like those who had perpetrated such horror on Jews. Shame!

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Toby Block's avatar

Since Israel signed the Oslo Accords (in the 1990's), 95% of the Palestinians in Judea and Samaria and 100% of the Palestinians in Gaza have been living under the administration of leaders of their own choosing. Neither the PA nor Hamas has made any effort to develop the economies of the areas under their control or to build the infrastructure needed by a viable state. The PA incites Palestinians to kill Jews, honoring and rewarding those who answer the call. While claiming it was an Israeli blockade that prevented Hamas from developing Gaza's resources, Hamas spent $1,000,000,000 building its extensive network of terror tunnels (and, yes, the tunnels are connected to mosques, schools, hospitals, businesses, and homes turning all residential areas in Gaza into legitimate military targets. While you are accusing Israel of committing genocide, West Point's Major John Spencer (head of Urban Warfare Studies) praises the IDF for achieving the lowest ratio of civilians killed to combatants killed (1.5:1) in the history of modern warfare.

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Fran Carbonaro's avatar

Brava!

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Bill Aaronson's avatar

I am apauled that an intellectual country like Israel cannot see it has put a target on its back because of its policy towards the Palestinians. Israel, you have written your own death warrant, sadly for such a great but compromised population. You no longer warrant anything but anger and retribution, and unfortunately it will come. From the first Zionist meeting in the final days of the 19th century, Israel has begun writing its own death certificate, and here it is 150 years later still writing. What a very sad and unforgivable state of affairs. Should the world survive, Israel will forever be a Demond, marked for its Zionist inhuman behavior since 1897.

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Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

Well said, thank you! But remember, the evil that the Zionist entity is carrying out lies deep in every human, we being an undomesticated species who attempted to establish civilization before taking to heart the laws of Moses - do not murder, do not steal, do not covet. Yet the Zionist entity pretends to be of that same people. It is up to every person to choose Life rather than turning to the Dark Side.

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

The vast majority of Jews polled support Netanyahu. Wakey wakey 🌄

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Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

OK, so you didn't get it. Whatever.

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

You either. Killing for an imaginary, petty God and for fatherland, as Moses and Joshua do in the Torah and as the vast majority of Jews support today in Gaza can never be a spiritual path. See Dueteronomy 12:2. Abrahamism celebrates genocide, as written in the Torah. Judaism is inherently ethnic Supremacist, as written in the Torah. It's always a good day to stop being a Supremacist.

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Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

Yes, all those things you say are true, but you missed the point - you can't even begin to pretend you have a civilization until humans d/l a new OS that doesn't include the apps for murder, theft, covetousness, etc. Nicht Wahr?

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

Glad you agree. I made no pretense that either the US or Israel is in any way " a civilization." That's not a credible assertion, obs. Ethnic Supremacists aren't civilized.

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

Glad we're in agreement. I don't begin to pretend that the US or Israel represent "civilization". In my definition you don't qualify for civilized if you can't provide clean water, food , housing and clothing to ALL the people in your society. That's how you get people off the apps you aptly mention.

Human history is full of such civilizations in fact, but Abrahamism has never produced a single one. The God of Abraham favors the rich and that means the perpetual creation of "poor and needy" . I'm sorry, but if your spiritual system has been wringing its hands over the "poor and needy" for literally thousands of years without any change in that regard your concern is certainly not credible. Plus, the Torah celebrates the ethnic Supremacy of the Jew Supreme. Jew, KKK, Proud Boy, Nazi, White Supremacist, same difference as they say.

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

The Zionazi entity doesn't have to pretend anything. It knows that most of the world's Jewish identifying folks support the Jewish Genocide of Gazans and the ultimate ethnic erasure of all Palestinians and their culture. We know that the Jewish soldiers are targeting children. Jewish Voices for Peace are sadly a minority within world Jewry. This is especially clear when we see how little they have been able to change things. If most Jews were actually opposed to Zionism then this genocide wouldn't be happening, would it? Think about it.

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dorothy slater's avatar

Several of my friends are Jewish and absolutely refuse to discuss this situation or better still to publicly protest in the streets I know that there are young Jewish students who are protesting but older Jewish people, my friends, seem to be avoiding the issue entirely. Of course ministers that I know are not using the pulpit to explain the Old Testament text which seem to be justifying this Slaughter either. This is really not a Israeli versus United States issue, it is a Humanity issue and it seems people on all sides are ignoring it. And the young people who are not are being accused of anti-semitism.

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Ed Nuhfer's avatar

All of my Jewish friends and colleagues are horrified by the Netanyahu gangster Israeli government and the ongoing genocide. It is difficult to recognize that "Zionists" are angling to take over the USA through buying corrupt politicians of both parties. Mainstream media is abetting the takeover by preventing open discussion. Fortunately, citizens are recognizing what mainstream media and corrupt political parties are trying to keep hidden. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTy0jq0Czto

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

The majority of Jews polled support Netanyahu.

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what'stheanti-matter's avatar

See the Guardian and Pew Charitable Trust polls.

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Trevor Logeman's avatar

It just makes me so sick to see these stories. How is it people can just sit by and not care about this. Not even a little bit of pretext or justification just outright blatant genocide and our government doesn't care and is supporting it. Just makes me sick

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Eileen Gibson's avatar

Deliberate murder and maiming of as many Palestinians as they can.

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